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Postby Aurabolt » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:45 pm

You're right; NORMALLY, he would be a king. But what would he do in a dire, intensely critical situation? One would expect him to come to the queen/king "Princess'" aid. either on Earth or the real world, she would be protected by him, even if he gave his life. Girl of the Dreams shows that in a shifted fashion, since he actually believed she was Aelita.
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Postby Skorpigeist » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:52 pm

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Aurabolt wrote:Well, I guess a princess will eventually become a queen, but I will say that Jeremie is a knight, plain and simple. Maybe not in the Lyoko sense, which we have yet to see, but in the real world, he maintains the personality of the glorified knight; loyal, defensive, and kind.

I think the only reason that he had problems with Megatanks is because they are thee strongest, and he would seem to me to be a defensive character (my template actually has a primary defensive weapon and ability for him) and he was put in a disvantageous decision. If Aeltia had come in with him, and he had to defend her from them, he'd be ok.


As you call Jeremie a knight "plain and simple", as a whole he would be playing the role of the king (not the chess way). He is their leader, he commands them what to do, he plans most of the strategys and plans against Xana. A King isn't much of a warrior, unlike the kinght. Kind of why I think of Jeremie as a King rather than a Knight. Knights would be Odd, Ulrich and Yumi. The King would be the last person to take down during the invasion of a Kingdom.


Haha I really thought you were refering to chess, but that analogy is a good one as well.

As for Jeremie entering a confrontation, I think he would, but he would not last very long in the fight ( although desperate people can pull of amazing feats). there are many reasons, but to me this goes back to how each character is, and I will compare Jeremie as a fighter to each of the other three warriors ( Aelita is excluded because she wasn't a warrior until recently)From what we know of Jeremie, he is not a very good fighter on lyoko, of course this is from lack of experience, but he is also not really meant to fight. that task is carried out by the others.

First Ulrich- Urlich is a swordsman in lyoko, and appears to be pretty capable with nearby objects in the real world. he has honed his mind and body to take blows, as he trains in the martial arts ( Pencak Silat ). He is a little more sturdy and fight aware than Jeremie, who is a bit leaner ( and suprisingly well toned for a man of his talents..... hmmm someone should have rethought that one because he would be lanky.) ulrich also has more muscle and experience.

Yumi- Yumi, when she has had to fight in the real world, has about the same fight potential as Ulrich because she to does the martial arts

Odd- Odd has "street smarts" and the "bob and weave" type tactics when fighting in the real world. he also does a fair amount of dodge and chase, as he has more athletic ability than Jeremie. He is also able to take more punishment because of this.

So Jeremie pales in comparison in the ability to fight as the other warriors can. the best he can do is to serve as a distraction until reinforcements can arrive. I don't see him winning any fights with anything in the real world or in lyoko.
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Postby Aurabolt » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:57 pm

That's why I came up with a template for Jeremie which would suit him incredibly well, since this would be able to stall, and protect Aelita almost indefinately. It also suits him because after a point, it is my belief that he would willingly sacrifice his life to save Aelita from danger.

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Jeremie's Lyoko template was one big issue, which he decided to take in order to increase it's capability. Similar to Aelita via Season 1&2, if he dies in Lyoko, he dies for REAL. That's why he's so scared of the scanners after a point in Season 1 (I'm claiming that he made this as a side project before he found out about the virus, and completed it after the fact), and that's why he'd only use this in very dire situations when Aelita and the others were in extreme peril, since there would be an increase in monsters, because Xana would pass up a chance to destroy the controller.

Appearance: Jeremie retains his glasses when he enters Lyoko, although he is able to see normally and they do not impair him. He wears a light blue-and-white T-shirt, showing off his hands and arms, but not his shoulders. He has green pants with brown streaks along the middle and bottom of the pant legs. On his right wrist is a contraption holding a large circular disc, which swirls white and purple.

Lifepoints: Unlike the three guardians, which have 100, and Aelita, which has 120, Jeremie has 150 life points, in order to protect himself from death and to power his special ability. With so many life points, he can take a Megatank's blast full force, with full life points, and still fight.

Weapon: The Shield Disc. A disc launcher on his right arm holding a 3-foot circumfrence circular disc is not primilarly meant for offense, but for defense. As with all weapons, hitting the target with the disc slices through and destroys them, but his weapon is meant to negate attacks. Any laser blasts striking the shield will instantly disspate, inculding a Megatank's blast and a Block's freezing attack. the shield's length not only protects Jeremie, but also is large enough to protect someone else from the direction the shield is facing, or if the shield is launched, which allows for distance protection.

Special Ability: Healing. Through physical contact, Jeremie can transfer 10 of his life points to restore 20 points to anyone else. Since he knows Aelita is in danger most of the time, his priorty rests with her, unless Zana makes the others capable of death.
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Postby Naton » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:18 pm

That sounds remarkably similar to a design I came up with. Like yours, I made most of his abilities based on preservation, especially of Aelita. I was trying to think of how to work the glasses in, so instead I gave him a helmet with large protective goggles. Also put two metal shields on his fore-arms that can take pretty much anything, and also boosted his life-points. No weapons, since I concidered that since the scanner bases your form around your desires, and his top desire would be protecting Aelita, he's pretty much set up as a human-shield. This is all in a yet to be released fan fic I'm writing so, spoilers :D
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Postby Sithking Zero » Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:12 pm

Many stories that I've read show Jeremie as a more Self-preserving charachter, from "Hacked Code" by Franken-XANA (His primary weapon was a shield which could morph into a bunch of different weapons) to "A Monster of a Problem," by Vector Z, where his weapon was a puny blaster pistol, but his armor cut damage in half and he could raise an electromagnetic shield.
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Postby Skorpigeist » Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:43 pm

At the risk of driving this thread way off topic, I want to discuss the ideas everyone has

First off, all designs mentioned make Jeremie way more powerful than any of the current warriors. I don't particularly think this should happen, even if it is possible ( why make himself so good, when he could upgrade all of the others.) And the ability to defend only is not really a weakness. Jeremie could just draw all of the enemy fire, and in the case of Aurabolt's design, just let odd hide behind him and snipe. Being an uber tank, is way overpowered by comparison.

On the note of the ideas though, I like the idea of the shield disc type defense mechanism, if it were smaller and could barely protect Jeremie, this would require practice and skill, and does not make him an indestructible tank. The idea reminds me of Tron ( a good movie, especially for 1982 Disney.... yeah it is 5 years older than I am, but when I watched it a few years later, I really liked. Some of the concepts in Tron are found in Code Lyoko. I sometimes wonder if the creators of CL had watched or seen Tron.) Anyone else familiar with Tron?

P.S The idea of Jeremie in a Tron Costume is just too funny
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Postby Naton » Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:36 am

It's a comprimise, not a weakness or advantage. If you've ever played a video game where you can choose your player's stats (can't think of one right now) where you have a limit amount of points to spread accros different cababilities, it's the same thing. What Jeremy would loose as far as fire-power, he gains in defence. But yeah, getting a little off topic. The important thing is that it's fitting of Jeremy's not particuarly violent nature, and care for Aelita that would influence his form.
And of course, Tron is about 'materialising into a virtual world' the similarities are pretty obvious :D if you havn't seen it, do.
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Postby Aurabolt » Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:10 am

Not to mention that Xana would became much more likely to send out heavier waves and stronger monsters if he knew that Jeremie came in. He'd want to get rid of him as fast as possible, and which Jeremie's design to this character, he can.

That's why it's a little strong. By taking out the ability to return to earth after LP=0, he's made himself more powerful, but also gave Xana a much more rewarding target than Aelita, shielding her on both points. Jeremie prepared for it.
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Postby FènéethxAelita » Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:18 pm

Thats the best jeremy template I've seen so far! :D
Here's my two-cents: Jeremy would of course tweek his lyoko character to be more powerful, he knows how to do it, and he knows what he wants.

Also, I think axj is so cute(not a word I usually use), but if I was there, at Kadic, I would be jealous


Err.. not a good thought. Something else I want to see, I don't care where, is a pure axj (censored) scene, it's the only way the relationship can go forward other than marrige. :umm:

NB: TB3 here - I somehow doubt Moonscoop are going to show Aelita and Jeremie's relationship go to that level at the age of 13 - it's young love, not James Bond.

I mean seriously - what relationship between two kids ever goes hardcore - usually only in third-world nations where marriage can be performed at that age - the idea of Jeremie and Aelita in that situation is sickening.

I've also censored your post in the interests of taste and the younger members.
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Postby Cassius335 » Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:29 pm

Great, first MakeYourself, now this guy... :arg:
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Postby Aurabolt » Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:28 pm

I'm going to ignore the message above spambot, and let Lucy handle it. It wouldn't feel right for me, and I would be a lot less forgiving.
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Postby Cassius335 » Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:41 am

Aurabolt wrote:I'm going to ignore the message above spambot,


That's it, I'm changing my name again...

Aurabolt wrote: and let Lucy handle it. It wouldn't feel right for me, and I would be a lot less forgiving.


Me too.
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Postby LadyLucy » Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:26 am

Ok, look, aelitalovingchimera.... (hey, you guys, what am I, the offical defender of the J/A couple or something? lol)

I'm happy you're a big Aelita fan (so am I), but you need stop with the pervy thoughts about the poor girl. To be frank, a couple of unnamed idiots did that for a while, and got in big trouble, and I don't want that to happen again. So, it's perfectly ok to love Aelita (I mean, who doesn't!), and....I can't stop you from having mature thoughts about her, but just....don't post them on here. It ruins it for a lotta people who are trying to the couple innocent. (well...mostly innocent....)

Is that ok? I did my best to be nice, and I think that's what you guys were getting at....I dunno...I"m not very good at telling people off.... >.>
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Postby TB3 » Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:48 am

I tweaked the offending post in the name of sanity and decency.
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Postby DeadViolet » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:40 am

I found some songs that remind me of JereLita:

"Dearest" - Ayumi Hamasaki
"Deep Down" - Eiffell 65
"Everytime We Touch" - Cascada
"She Says" - Howie Day

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Postby LadyLucy » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:50 am

AGREED! ^_^

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Every Thing She Does is Magic- The Police (I made an AMV with that one!! ^_^)
When I first saw you- The DreamGirls Soundtrack (This song makes me cry!!! It's so sweet...)
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Postby FènéethxAelita » Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:39 pm

I regreted that post after I logged off, I knew this would happen. Y7, got ya! It's hard to control, sorry.

Aurabolt, former Spambot5, I did deserve it. :newb: ;__;

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Postby Sithking Zero » Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:05 pm

Don't worry. We all make mistakes like that on our first go-around.
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Postby yumi_yemimah » Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:37 am

Taelia wrote:Wait, wait, wait, wait! I got it!

How about a TRIPLE DATE? J/A, U/Y, and O/Si!
I think the TRIPLE DATE should be: Jeremie/Aelita,Ulrich/Yumi,and Odd/Samantha :kissing:
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Postby Aurabolt » Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:07 pm

I regreted that post after I logged off, I knew this would happen. Y7, got ya! It's hard to control, sorry.

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Not a problem man, I just didn't want to say anything just in case that was the case. I have been known to raise some written hell on this board, and I am lately attempting to control myself.

I'm not really in the song business, but other couples, official or hypothetical, that remind me of Jeremie/Aelita are: Renton/Eureka (Eureka Seven), Pazu/Sheeta (Castle in the Sky), Alex/Luna (Lunar Sliver Star Story.), and Harry/Hermione (Harry Potter.) Let's hear some more.
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Postby Sithking Zero » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:25 pm

There are four types of couples that exist in anime/cartoons:

The "Shy" couple. They are a JXA type. Two shy people, not really fighters, are thrust into big hectic things, and they come together for comfort and protection.

The "Angsty" couple. They're the ones that never freaking get together, despite the completely obvious fact that they like each other. One guess which CL characters this refers to.

The "Romeo and Juliet" couple. The couple that hates each other at first, but slowly growes to like each other.

The "Happy," couple. The ones that are perpetually happy and stuff.

Lastly, the "Mixed" couples. Examples: SakuraXSauske (HappyXAngsty), OddXAelita (HappyXShy,) and HinataXNaruto. (ShyXHappy.)
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Postby FènéethxAelita » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:39 pm

Thanks for the pardon. (emotionly neutral)
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Postby Aurabolt » Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:30 pm

I'm personally a fan, if I were to use Sithking's method, or a shy/happy relationship in which both of the subjects would without question stand by one another. You mentioned how shy ones wouldn't fight, but if the significiant one was in danger, the other would come to their rescue/aid.

That is really cute, and is one of the ultimate testaments of caring IMO, alongside fluffy actions such as hugging, cuddling, and just being there, and other factors which branch off, such as events that cannot be explained but which come about by their love and closeness, which I have labeled.

In my system, any relationship which is equally loving, involves tremendous novelty and preservation in it's development, and where the relationshipis developed by choice instead of fate is called a "Life Bond Relationship." Any of the four couples and combinations Sithking mentioned can fit into this category, with enough time.

Shy: Happens much quicker; Jeremie/Aelita, Pazu/Sheeta, Renton/Eureka.

Happy: Even happier thanks to their connection; 10th Doctor/Rose, Odd/Sam, Mario/Peach

Angsty: Angsty Life Bonds will eventually get together; Yumi/Ulrich, Roslyn/Adama (Battlestar Galactica), Jack/Sam (Stargate SG-1)

Romeo/Juliet: A life bond relationship of this kind likes each other at points, but will never admit it until they confess. It also works for unrequited love; Kagome/Inuyasha, Sonic/Amy Rose, Vash/Maryl.

That should flesh out the media couples for us.
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Postby Cassius335 » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:41 pm

Sithking Zero wrote:The "Romeo and Juliet" couple. The couple that hates each other at first, but slowly growes to like each other.


Really? I thought "Romeo and Juliet" was the one where two people on opposite sides of a conflict love each other in secret (with the knowlege that if their families find out, all hell breaks loose), only for both of them to end up comitting suicide. Not exactly the relationship you were aiming for.
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Postby Skorpigeist » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:45 pm

Cassius335 wrote:
Sithking Zero wrote:The "Romeo and Juliet" couple. The couple that hates each other at first, but slowly growes to like each other.


Really? I thought "Romeo and Juliet" was the one where two people on opposite sides of a conflict love each other in secret (with the knowlege that if their families find out, all hell breaks loose), only for both of them to end up comitting suicide. Not exactly the relationship you were aiming for.


Just popping in from a long break due to my studies. You would be right Cassius. Romeo and Juliet fall almost instantly in love with each other at a social ( in the R&J movie with leo it is a costume/ masquerade with each costume being a symbol of the character) that the Capulets had. At that point in the play, Romeo is actually in love with Juliet's cousin, but then falls for her when he sees her. I could quote the entire area, but it is not of importance here. Pm if you want the full answer. and yes the Capulets and the Montaques have a feud going on between the families
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