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Postby The BB of C » Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:32 pm

I'm not sure what to think about the whole situation, all of my friends that kept an open mind as I told them put together ended up even on both sides. Anyway...
About three weeks ago, during a large training session, we were aproached by a rival martial arts crew. They challenged us and the result was a huge fight. Me, (nickname) Atom Bomb and Speed Demon against 10 of their best men at the same time. But that's not the issue here. The issue is shortly I defeated someone, their girlfriend came up behind me and tried to choke me. I threw her off and blacked out with anger. Note: My friends know because I've told them that if they ever see me like that, do to whatever they can to keep me from hitting someone too hard.
When my senses get turned back on, I'm on the ground and Speed Demon is clutching his hand in pain. Apparently, he punched me in the head to keep me from hurting that guy's girlfriend. It turned out he broke his hand on my skull. He told me not to worry about it but I'm not sure. I tried to ask other people what they think, but I always end up with a:
"Oh snap! He broke SD's hand with his head, that is so cool!"

What do you think I should feel of this? I just wanted to know what you all thought.
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Postby Skorpigeist » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:25 pm

Comming from a person who believes that violence doesn't solve anything I would say that you should.

But I also must say that he did what he felt necessary and you told him to do whatever necessary to make sure you didn't injure someone.

So my answer from my prespective would be yes, but at the same time no because it was a necessary break.
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Postby Kim » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:29 pm

Well, that's a really tough one. I suppose if your friend told you not to worry, then just apologize to SD and the girl and move on. Wait, besides tossing her off, did you do anything to the girl? Cause if you didn't, then no need to worry about her. It's her own fault she got thrown. Just apologize to your friend and try to move on. Also may want to get a better grip on your anger bud.
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Postby . » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:30 pm

1. let me just say, my thoughts matched that quote perfectly. Amazing lol

2. yeah I mean it's only human nature, you never want to hurt someone. Be relieved it was your friend that got hurt and not that chica though.

Now keep in mind I'm saying you should feel bad, but at the same time it was your friend that broke his hand on your skull. Its not really like you broke it yourself.
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Postby The BB of C » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:21 pm

Kim wrote:Well, that's a really tough one. I suppose if your friend told you not to worry, then just apologize to SD and the girl and move on. Wait, besides tossing her off, did you do anything to the girl?


I didn't do anything to her. But I was defending her boyfriend, and I won, and she attacked me from behind.

Kim wrote:Just apologize to your friend and try to move on. Also may want to get a better grip on your anger bud.


I appologised and so did they for challenging us unecissarily. All this time I thought I had good control of myself. But that's the second time I've gone crazy like that over the past year and a half. I should definately practice more.

Skorpigeist wrote:Comming from a person who believes that violence doesn't solve anything...


I don't believe it doesn't solve anything. The way I think of what violence solves is based on a very complicated code of conduct I use.

Skorpigeist wrote:But I also must say that he did what he felt necessary and you told him to do whatever necessary to make sure you didn't injure someone.


Very good point.
Anyway, that's really cool you all think that. I guess now that I have more oppinions leaning one way I can make a decision. So, you're saying I should feel bad because I lost control of myself, but it's sortof okay because I told them I wanted them to stop me if they saw that happen. Am I right in that interpretation?
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Postby Skorpigeist » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:41 pm

The BB of C wrote:
Skorpigeist wrote:Comming from a person who believes that violence doesn't solve anything...


I don't believe it doesn't solve anything. The way I think of what violence solves is based on a very complicated code of conduct I use.

Skorpigeist wrote:But I also must say that he did what he felt necessary and you told him to do whatever necessary to make sure you didn't injure someone.


Very good point.
Anyway, that's really cool you all think that. I guess now that I have more oppinions leaning one way I can make a decision. So, you're saying I should feel bad because I lost control of myself, but it's sortof okay because I told them I wanted them to stop me if they saw that happen. Am I right in that interpretation?



I am interested in your complicated code of honor that involves violence. As far as your interpretation of what I said, that is right. You should feel bad because you lost your self, but not because your friend did what was necessary.
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Postby Bootch » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:45 pm

sounds like an incredible story, but anything goes in this world...

so If your friend says not to worry about it cuz he was trying to help you , then you shouldn't... you should just look for ways to help him, pitch in with the doctors bill or something...
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Postby . » Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:15 pm

Skorpigeist wrote:
The BB of C wrote:
Skorpigeist wrote:Comming from a person who believes that violence doesn't solve anything...


I don't believe it doesn't solve anything. The way I think of what violence solves is based on a very complicated code of conduct I use.

Skorpigeist wrote:But I also must say that he did what he felt necessary and you told him to do whatever necessary to make sure you didn't injure someone.


Very good point.
Anyway, that's really cool you all think that. I guess now that I have more oppinions leaning one way I can make a decision. So, you're saying I should feel bad because I lost control of myself, but it's sortof okay because I told them I wanted them to stop me if they saw that happen. Am I right in that interpretation?



I am interested in your complicated code of honor that involves violence. As far as your interpretation of what I said, that is right. You should feel bad because you lost your self, but not because your friend did what was necessary.


Was it really neccaessary for his friend to punch him over just holding him down? I mean... He broke his hand, thats gotta be one helluva good punch
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Postby Skorpigeist » Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:22 pm

ThePepsiPiper wrote:
Skorpigeist wrote:
The BB of C wrote:
Skorpigeist wrote:Comming from a person who believes that violence doesn't solve anything...


I don't believe it doesn't solve anything. The way I think of what violence solves is based on a very complicated code of conduct I use.

Skorpigeist wrote:But I also must say that he did what he felt necessary and you told him to do whatever necessary to make sure you didn't injure someone.


Very good point.
Anyway, that's really cool you all think that. I guess now that I have more oppinions leaning one way I can make a decision. So, you're saying I should feel bad because I lost control of myself, but it's sortof okay because I told them I wanted them to stop me if they saw that happen. Am I right in that interpretation?



I am interested in your complicated code of honor that involves violence. As far as your interpretation of what I said, that is right. You should feel bad because you lost your self, but not because your friend did what was necessary.


Was it really neccaessary for his friend to punch him over just holding him down? I mean... He broke his hand, thats gotta be one helluva good punch



If he is that hard to stop when he blacks out in that kind of anger, then yes it was necessary our thought necessary, which encompasses the same thing in my eyes.
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Postby The BB of C » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:17 pm

Was it really neccaessary for his friend to punch him over just holding him down? I mean... He broke his hand, thats gotta be one helluva good punch


He can't too successfully hold me down. I'm nearly 3x as strong as him and litterally weigh 109 lbs heavier. His punches aren't that strong (but he's fast like you wouldn't believe) it was my skull's density. I've dented lockers, folded cafeteria tables, and broken school desks with my skull.

I am interested in your complicated code of honor that involves violence. As far as your interpretation of what I said, that is right. You should feel bad because you lost your self, but not because your friend did what was necessary.


Throw a situation at me. I can't explain the code but I can show you how it would work in deciphering weather beating someone up would fix things or not.
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Postby . » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:59 pm

It's still not like you broke it youself. He broke it on your head.

Now yeah you are at fault for blacking out, and being an indirect cause of it. But ya know at the end of the day you didn't directly hurt your friend and he told you not to worry about it. I'm sure he knows your grateful that he didn't let you kill anyone.
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Postby The BB of C » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:06 pm

Definately. I had a feeling that's how things should have been ticking inside my head. Thanks for the confirmation.
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Postby Crazy_For_Christ. » Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:23 pm

WOW! I've been that mean to bullies, but never a girl! Dude, I'm surprised if you're not feeling Guilty. The Girl shouldn't of went up and choked you, and, you did the right think of getting out. But after getting out of her hands, you went overboard. You should feel guilty.
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Postby The BB of C » Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:59 pm

That I was definately not too happy with myself for doing. No contrevoursey there.
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Postby Delritho » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:50 pm

Okay I hate to say this but if that girl was trying to choke you then that was a declaration saying that she can defend herself, myself if you try to choke me I will knock you out, doesn't matter if you are male or female. I am sorry but I am not gonna change my reaction because of gender. But back on topic. You should feel a little guilty for losing control, but your friend did what he had to do to prevent you from going overboard, but I agree on helping with the bills idea.
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Postby The BB of C » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:52 pm

Good idea. But first I'd have to get a job :D
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Postby MY85 » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:58 pm

Delritho wrote:Okay I hate to say this but if that girl was trying to choke you then that was a declaration saying that she can defend herself, myself if you try to choke me I will knock you out, doesn't matter if you are male or female. I am sorry but I am not gonna change my reaction because of gender.


I kinda remember something I've heard before.

"When you die, the gender of your murderer doesn't matter at all for vengance."
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Postby The BB of C » Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:53 pm

Murder is simply wrong. There is no justification for one human's death at the hands of another human.

Good news everyone, he gets his cast taken off tomorrow. He told me jokingly a couple of days ago that when his cast comes off, he's going to beat me with it XD
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