Christians

[Ghost Guest offline]

I once read this quote... "God created many kinds of men and men created many kinds of gods." Something like that. Well, I think it speaks for itself.

[Gauntlet offline]

First of all, i agree about Giving God a Face, I just disagree with saying He's an impersonal force running the universe. However, He does exsist on the Spiritual Plane AND the Mortal Plane because, well, he created them. The exsistance of Demons and evil spirits should be a clue (there are only two paths to the spiritual realm: The path through demons ((I.e: Mediums and psychics)) and the path through praise and prayer to the Lord.). Next of all, If you wanna say youagree with Christian ethics, just say you support Judeo-Christian Ideals, not necessarily saying you're a Christian. (I would of put that in a Pm, but I have no idea how to do that thing with the Ses.) I havn't heard the word "cheeky" since I was wathcing that British guy On the Apprentice.

Well, the vision and view of God differs greatly from each person. Since there is no surefire way to actually determine where God is, it's a lost argument (as with most things in religious context). However, and I'm not talking to you personally, I find it interesting how the Bible says spirit mediums are going against God. They find astrology evil, too, despite the fact that God supposedly made the stars, which is kind of funny. I do understand why it is said so, though; turning towards spirits and demons for help and not asking God for help is considered a sin.

Still, it's very interesting in my opinion. Anyone have anything to comment on this, or anything prior? This thread is starting to go somewhere.

[JesusFreak offline]

Well not asking God for help isn't a sin, asking "nature" for help is.

[Tangent128 offline]

Basically, (at least "serious") astrology is considered a sort of idolatry- you're essentially worshipping the stars instead of their Creator.

As far as God's location? He's omnipresent- his influence and attention are everywhere at once.

[Overcaffeinated Sloth offline]

Well not asking God for help isn't a sin, asking "nature" for help is.

Could you explain that a bit?

[. offline]

Don't tell me God can do everything then tell me he can't accept sin. Thats BS. Either he can do anything or he can't. It's rather he won't. But thats BS because even Superman doesn't let Lex Luthor die.

Well not asking God for help isn't a sin, asking "nature" for help is.

God is Everything, there for God is nature.

[Tangent128 offline]

God is Everything, therefore God is nature.

God isn't everything. He created everything. There's a key difference.

Loving a person's music isn't the same as loving that person; worshipping nature isn't the same as worshipping God, and is offensive to Him- you're crediting His creation for existing instead of crediting Him for creating it.

Don't tell me God can do everything then tell me he can't accept sin.

I didn't...

No. He can't do that which is inconsistant with His nature. See:
http://www.gotquestions.org/God-cannot.html

[. offline]

God is Everything, therefore God is nature.

God isn't everything. He created everything. There's a key difference.

Loving a person's music isn't the same as loving that person; worshipping nature isn't the same as worshipping God, and is offensive to Him- you're crediting His creation for existing instead of crediting Him for creating it.

Don't tell me God can do everything then tell me he can't accept sin.

I didn't...

No. He can't do that which is inconsistant with His nature. See:
http://www.gotquestions.org/God-cannot.html

Actually I disagree. Loving a persons work is equal to loving the person. See Benoit, Chris

Fine then. I hereby adopt a policy that if God is how you say he is I'm better off roasting.

[Tangent128 offline]

Actually I disagree. Loving a persons work is equal to loving the person. See Benoit, Chris.

Okay, so say that you write an amazing song (let's say even better than Un Monde Sans Danger). I like the song, so I rip it off and perform it to stadium-sized crowds without any attribution. Since I love the song, I'm not being a jerk to you, am I?

[. offline]

Actually I disagree. Loving a persons work is equal to loving the person. See Benoit, Chris.

Okay, so say that you write an amazing song (let's say even better than Un Monde Sans Danger). I like the song, so I rip it off and perform it to stadium-sized crowds without any attribution. Since I love the song, I'm not being a jerk to you, am I?

You know it's not your song. And I know it's not your song. And I'm flattered you even stole it.

[JesusFreak offline]

Actually I disagree. Loving a persons work is equal to loving the person. See Benoit, Chris

That's called Faith By Works, and it isn't true.

[. offline]

Actually I disagree. Loving a persons work is equal to loving the person. See Benoit, Chris

That's called Faith By Works, and it isn't true.

*looks at the admiration he has for Eddie Guerrero with all he accomplished*

No. Truth.

[JesusFreak offline]

Actually I disagree. Loving a persons work is equal to loving the person. See Benoit, Chris

That's called Faith By Works, and it isn't true.

*looks at the admiration he has for Eddie Guerrero with all he accomplished*

No. Truth.

Once again, you're judging by human standards...

[Kamekai offline]

And I know best of all when I say that even dolphins have better standards than humans. O_O

[Tangent128 offline]

A person's works are certainly reason for you to like them (I admire God all the more for the beauty of the universe. Outer space is full of cool stuff, and the biosphere is even cooler...), but liking a person's works isn't the same as liking them.

[knifey offline]

I'm flattered you even stole it.

Yeah, you're right; <I>everyone's</I> like that. My brother <I>totally</I> felt that way when his 3D game design was stolen, entered in a science fair, and won second place in the science fair.

Actually I disagree. Loving a persons work is equal to loving the person. See Benoit, Chris.

I love the band members of Linkin Park. I totally want to make love to every single one of them.

In case you didn't notice, that was complete sarcasm

[Kamekai offline]

I'm flattered you even stole it.

Yeah, you're right; <I>everyone's</I> like that. My brother <I>totally</I> felt that way when his 3D game design was stolen, entered in a science fair, and won second place in the science fair.

Actually I disagree. Loving a persons work is equal to loving the person. See Benoit, Chris.

I love the band members of Linkin Park. I totally want to make love to every single one of them.

In case you didn't notice, that was complete sarcasm

Whoa. Scared me for a second there, you did.

[Carth]

I'm flattered you even stole it.

Yeah, you're right; <I>everyone's</I> like that. My brother <I>totally</I> felt that way when his 3D game design was stolen, entered in a science fair, and won second place in the science fair.

Actually I disagree. Loving a persons work is equal to loving the person. See Benoit, Chris.

I love the band members of Linkin Park. I totally want to make love to every single one of them.

In case you didn't notice, that was complete sarcasm

Okay, Knife, we get the point, calm down.

Actually, everyone should calm down. And get back on topic.

Heh...I've never been much sure about this thread. Things could get ugly very fast when religion is on the table. (No offense.)

[Kamekai offline]

*gasp* I am offended by your remark, Carth! O_O

[JesusFreak offline]

Well, she's right...this could go nasty very easily, so practice your political skills chhildren!

[TB3]

Well, she's right...this could go nasty very easily, so practice your political skills chhildren!

Uh...policitcal skills, um...

"FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS!"

[Carth]

Bwahaha.

But i'm serious. People have different opinions they believe in pretty ardently here- some people are pretty crazy for God (and Jesus), some of them couldn't give a rat's left foot about him. We need to respect that, or everything'll splode. Things have sploded a lot because of religious difference. Which is weird.

[JesusFreak offline]

Well, yes, but the thing is this thread is for religious discussion and people tend to get very passionate about religion in general. I thank the LF team for giving us a little leeway when it comes to arguing our beliefs.

Lets' give 'em a hand guys!


*claps*

[Kamekai offline]

*Also sucks up* [size=0]One step closer to modship! xD[/sarcasm][/size]

[JesusFreak offline]

Okay, back on track....

What is it with all these early Man ancestors that <s>disgruntled Jehovah's Witnesses</s> that evolutionist scientists have set?


Just to get the ball rolling...

Lets start with Lucy: Chimp

Piltdown Man: Filed down orangutan teeth and specially treated jawbone to make it look ancient

Nebraska Man; "reconstructed" from an ancient pig's tooth

Rama's Ape: "reconstructed" from a few teeth, a heavy jaw, and a few facial bones (facial bones put together incorrectly to make it look human). Assumed to walk upright when no hip bones were found. Ramapethicus was later reconstructed correctly and it was determined to be an ancestor of the orangutan.

Australopihecus: found from 400 fragments of skull and determined before complete excavation it was human. Reclassified as an extinct ape.

Homo Habilis: not humanlike at all. In the ape family

Java man: "buried" in the same layer of rock as a human skull in a volcanic area.

Peking man: 3 feet tall at adulthood, so thought by some to be a type of ape.

Neanderthal man: A race of modern Humans, as determined by science.

Cro-Magnon Man: What's the difference between modern Humans and them?


Discuss plz.