Season 3 Episode 13: Final Round (Last Round in French)

[Reploid CB]

They may've also added the e-mail from Franz Hopper because without it the episode could've made/could've been mistaken as a series finale. Leaving it as a cliffhanger leaves no doubt in your mind that there's gonna be more, whereas without that moment, you don't get that same guarantee.

[MY85 offline]

They may've also added the e-mail from Franz Hopper because without it the episode could've made/could've been mistaken as a series finale. Leaving it as a cliffhanger leaves no doubt in your mind that there's gonna be more, whereas without that moment, you don't get that same guarantee.

Without the email, it could have ended in two ways:
1) Series finale.
2) Optional possibility to look like a series finale and a season finale at the same time.

For example: Buffy The Vampire Slayer's Season 5, it ended with Buffy's death (2nd time). Many thought the series ended until UPN got to accept BTVS for airing 2 more years. And to begin the 6th Season, have Willow deciding to resurrect the Slayer.

In case Season 3 would have ended without the email... have Season 4 being right with that scene and showing Franz's email... and then, have a scene saying "x y later" (x = number; y =day, month or year) and pass to a new scenario for the current episode.

[animenologist offline]

But with such an ending, its incredibly inconclusive. XANA is still on a rampage, now having acquired William, he's still lingering around the internet, we still know little to nothing about Project Carthage and the events that lead to the shut down on June 16, 1994 or the fate of the world to come. An ending without tying up the major loose ends is not an ending. It's Highlander the Animated Series. Quentin still had Jetattors to seek, he hasn't defeated Kortan or been defeated by Kortan, the fate of the world has yet to be revealed, if it was supposed to be a conclusive ending for the series finale, there would still be a lot left dangling. It would be like if Avatar ended right after the Water book, and that still would give you a dangling feeling, albeit less of a dangling feeling.

[MY85 offline]

Looks like everyone wants a happy ending... I want to see both happy and bad ending by Season 4. They need a death somewhere in Season 4 to spice some things up.

Anyways, I finally got my view on the episode:

Who knows, maybe sometime in Season 4 Aelita will be sexually active and gets pregnant. But that would then make Franz Hopper (who I suspect will be materialized into this world) angry at her daughter for being such a whore!

Man, I think you watch the show for the wrong reasons.

Okay Then... I agree with this member.

... That kinda sucked. It's like they borrowed the entire season from A fanfic!

It kinda resumes Season 3, but not accurately.


D*mn, I just watched this episode. It's not perfect at all, unless you're a true Code Lyoko diehard fan. I love Code Lyoko, but today I felt like I was punched in the nose, especially with some videogame references.

It's just obvious to tell that William was gonna be the bad guy once he got inmunity to Lyoko. So by that time, I think Xana had created a very powerful outfit for William that could outstand the 4 Lyoko warriors. I think Xana took a big shot when William recently got inmunity.

Jim has pride for being roller derby champ? Sure he should be proud of something where he didn't suck. He skated in the 70's. Vintage. Anyways, the skateboard ramp was cool, but the kids blowed there. I can recall an Indy from the black kid that started the tournament, a Nollie from the kid that crashed against a girl that had the same outfit as Yumi, but different hair and looks. Odd skated fairly well... although, I wonder why Ulrich didn't entered the tournament.

Two cameo appearances: from Sam and Ulrich's dad. Sam and Odd still share feelings for each other... so I'm gonna bet that they have an affair that went beyond kissing and hugging.

God... the segments with Milly and Tamiya interviewing Jeremie were just a bit on the pathetic side. Although, unintentionally, it worked well enough to get Jeremie occupied.

Hmm... it's interesting to know that Samantha lying delayed Odd's arrival to Lyoko, Ulrich got hold down by his dad, Yumi got hold down by Hiroki... but nobody holds down William.

Aelita knew already that things might get f**ked up. William's attitude was just the thing enough to raise hell by the end of the Season. He never tried out to be in Lyoko, but hey, they chose him. They accepted him to be a part of the group. It's not entirely William's fault for screwing up things, but it's also the Team's fault for accepting him. Don't give William all the fault for Lyoko's death. The gang just approved him after one or two actions, which wouldn't be just enough for me and anyone else with enough common sense to accept him. The quick decisions they made cost them Lyoko. And they knew well William for like almost a year.

My first impression of William at Lyoko was that he looked cool for a while, but he looked way too overpowerful for my taste.

WILLIAM!!!! *hyperventilates all over again*

MWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

DUDE!!! I think he personally looked more like a Riku (of Kingdom Hearts) with black hair, than Cloud...although that sword was definitely Cloud-like too. *snickers* Mwahahaha...he looks like Riku...and he likes (or used to like Yumi)...and Ulrich does...ooooooo

MWAHAHAHAHA!!! And now he's evil!!! And he's...fused with XANA!!! Dude!!! Homigosh, it really is Kingdom Hearts!!!! Only XANA's Ansem (and not Franz Hopper).

Those two qoutes I'm pointing out are enough proof of where this episode went to the s**t. Not even in my nightmare I could see something horrid coming to Code Lyoko. Kingdom Hearts... sure that all Kingdom Hearts fans will get a blast out of that... but those like me who despise the game (yes, I've played it and it was good for a while until it got quite stale and pretty gay enough to continue playing... graphically good, but Disney's name f***ed up that game) think the references slaughtered the entire episode, which was thriller, but portrayed pathetic references to that stupid excuse for a videogame. Congratulations, Moonscoop. You successfully proved that Code Lyoko is indeed for 7 year old people and that with certain episodes you can lose the respect your best show haves. F**k your writers and the people who approved that piece of crap segments. If the show gets more "KH moments" or references, cancel it or give the show a decent ending. Making movies references was okay, but that videogame... just no. If you were going to ripoff something, well ripoff something good, not something silly.

If anyone's gonna trash me about my opinion about KH, do it if you want to. I have no objections in replying.

Let's see how the real team dealed with their situations holding them from arriving to the factory. Odd leaving Samantha showed me that despite his inmaturity displayed at times, Odd can take stuff (some of them) as a serious business. Although Ulrich's way of giving Sam the message wasn't something clear, notice that if Ulrich mentions Lyoko, he could have screwed thigns up, given that the attack Xana pulled wouldn't allow an RTTP. Loved his display of maturity. In Ulrich's case... no comment, who wouldn't hate a father like that? And Yumi... Hiroki deserved some whoop-*ss can.

The ending... quite suspenseful... but William's way too overpowerful. Why the hell anyone didn't dared to attack him when he was weaponless?? Idiots.

[X.A.N.A offline]

Ok question time.


What's with a few people saying "@#()&%*^! Kingdom Hearts!"?

Am I missing something here? I've played all three KH games and I'm not seeing it. Does it have to do with William and how he looked?


I mean, I know about Cloud of FF VII and his Buster Sword, but can't a character have a large sword and it not be a rip-off?

[Rail Runner offline]

I noticed the references...and I didnt like his attitude on Lyoko...it just seemed too non caring..or too childish...I sorta liked his creeper destroying move. He should have listened when they told him to get out of there though..but I guess thats where suspense comes in. I just loved Ulrich's response to his dad though..Im done listening...I was like whoa.

[Reploid CB]

I dunno, I think you guys are reaching too far to make the KH connection. I didn't even really see it (can't a guy be possessed by evil without it being a KH thing?) until someone mentioned it, and even then just barely.

[Keiji offline]

Those two qoutes I'm pointing out are enough proof of where this episode went to the s**t. Not even in my nightmare I could see something horrid coming to Code Lyoko. Kingdom Hearts... sure that all Kingdom Hearts fans will get a blast out of that... but those like me who despise the game (yes, I've played it and it was good for a while until it got quite stale and pretty gay enough to continue playing... graphically good, but Disney's name f***ed up that game) think the references slaughtered the entire episode, which was thriller, but portrayed pathetic references to that stupid excuse for a videogame. Congratulations, Moonscoop. You successfully proved that Code Lyoko is indeed for 7 year old people and that with certain episodes you can lose the respect your best show haves. F**k your writers and the people who approved that piece of crap segments. If the show gets more "KH moments" or references, cancel it or give the show a decent ending. Making movies references was okay, but that videogame... just no. If you were going to ripoff something, well ripoff something good, not something silly.

What. The. Fk.

How in all blue hell does someone having a big sword make the show for 7 year olds?

There were NO references to Kingdom Hearts at all.

Anyway, I'm curious as to what will happen in Season 4. After all, there is no Code Lyoko without Lyoko...

[Sithking Zero offline]

Those two qoutes I'm pointing out are enough proof of where this episode went to the s**t. Not even in my nightmare I could see something horrid coming to Code Lyoko. Kingdom Hearts... sure that all Kingdom Hearts fans will get a blast out of that... but those like me who despise the game (yes, I've played it and it was good for a while until it got quite stale and pretty gay enough to continue playing... graphically good, but Disney's name f***ed up that game) think the references slaughtered the entire episode, which was thriller, but portrayed pathetic references to that stupid excuse for a videogame. Congratulations, Moonscoop. You successfully proved that Code Lyoko is indeed for 7 year old people and that with certain episodes you can lose the respect your best show haves. F**k your writers and the people who approved that piece of crap segments. If the show gets more "KH moments" or references, cancel it or give the show a decent ending. Making movies references was okay, but that videogame... just no. If you were going to ripoff something, well ripoff something good, not something silly.

What. The. Fk.

How in all blue hell does someone having a big sword make the show for 7 year olds?

There were NO references to Kingdom Hearts at all.

Anyway, I'm curious as to what will happen in Season 4. After all, there is no Code Lyoko without Lyoko...

Yeah. How does having a freakeshly awesome gigantic sword qualify it as a show for seven year olds? And another thing. I never thought of Kingdom hearts when I saw that. You know what I thought of? I thought of Cloud's Sword from FFVII Advent Children.

Okay, I just worked contrary to my point, but...

[Lani offline]

Dude, Rodri, calm down. A LOT of fandoms have similar themes like that, like the "Heart of ~" is kinda common, and so is something evil taking over a character o__O; I mean I can totally understand where you're coming from in the KH thing, but in all honesty, that's kinda like me saying "OMG CODE LYOKO RIPPED OF CARD CAPTOR SAKURA RWAR I'M SO MAD. OMG, GIANT TEDDY BEAR THEY RIPPED THAT FROM CCS. OMG THEY SWITCHED THEY RIPPED THAT FROM CCS" You'd think XANA liked shoujo manga, really xD; But seriously, LOTS of shows, books, games etc. have very similar themes like that, almost to the point where it's unavoidable. If you're looking for something completely and totally original, you won't find anything. In that case, one really is better off making up something on their own :/

[. offline]

I felt really bad for William when Yumi said "I knew trusting you was a bad idea". I mean, sure he couldn't really hear her, but now is it is fault that he's been possessed by XANA and being used to destroy Lyoko? No. He didn't know the Scyphozoa would do that, and tired to fight it (which like everyone else he didn't do too well in).

No way. They warned him. Several times. Jeremie told him to get away and that the Scyphozoa was dangerous, and he didn't listen. It doesn't matter that he didn't know "what" it would do to him...he didn't listen to someone telling him that he was in grave danger. That's like someone telling someone not to jump out of a plane without a parachute because it's dangerous, and the person does it anyway because they think it'll be a thrill. Would you blame the person who warned the jumper then? ^^

He just wasn't able to take Lyoko seriously...it was a game to him. And he didn't listen to the people he should have when he was clearly in over his head.

Yumi is understandably disappointed because she knew then that it was the end of Lyoko...and it was William's fault because he didn't listen to the warnings they gave him. I mean...think of how hurtful that is to her...she cast the deciding vote on letting him in...Yumi takes responsibility to heart...in her eyes, she probably sees Lyoko being destroyed (and William's being "lost" with it) as somewhat her fault, in a way. *hugs Yumi*

It was a rookie mistake. Had it not been his first time losing his Lyoko virginity he would of been more serious.

No Offense, but I expected that from you...

Indeed maybe it was a "Rookie Mistake" but he was warned multiple times. How does somehow go on about that?

I would listen if some told me NOT to jump off a cliff without any safety device. (Which is suicide unless out of some miracle I survived. O.O)

See but your comparing something that would be common sense to being on Lyoko.

Imagine for the first time all of a sudden your plucked up and thrown into lyoko and had no piror knowledge of what to do or what even the monster before you can even do?

Those two qoutes I'm pointing out are enough proof of where this episode went to the s**t. Not even in my nightmare I could see something horrid coming to Code Lyoko. Kingdom Hearts... sure that all Kingdom Hearts fans will get a blast out of that... but those like me who despise the game (yes, I've played it and it was good for a while until it got quite stale and pretty gay enough to continue playing... graphically good, but Disney's name f***ed up that game) think the references slaughtered the entire episode, which was thriller, but portrayed pathetic references to that stupid excuse for a videogame. Congratulations, Moonscoop. You successfully proved that Code Lyoko is indeed for 7 year old people and that with certain episodes you can lose the respect your best show haves. F**k your writers and the people who approved that piece of crap segments. If the show gets more "KH moments" or references, cancel it or give the show a decent ending. Making movies references was okay, but that videogame... just no. If you were going to ripoff something, well ripoff something good, not something silly.

What. The. Fk.

How in all blue hell does someone having a big sword make the show for 7 year olds?

There were NO references to Kingdom Hearts at all.

Anyway, I'm curious as to what will happen in Season 4. After all, there is no Code Lyoko without Lyoko...

Yeah. How does having a freakeshly awesome gigantic sword qualify it as a show for seven year olds? And another thing. I never thought of Kingdom hearts when I saw that. You know what I thought of? I thought of Cloud's Sword from FFVII Advent Children.

Okay, I just worked contrary to my point, but...

I'm pretty sure the sword William had is an actual sword. One of the guys on Rouruni Kenshin anime had it. The reason ofr it's size is that it was ment to allow the sowrds men to killed the horse and the guy riding it. It's disadvantage that, while powerful, you can only swing it in two directions (up and down and side ways) making it very predictable to counter.

[UltimaHedgie offline]

That's getting to me as well. I mean, I've never seen much of Kingdom Hearts, but from what I do know, I can't make any connections between Kingdom Hearts and this episode. I just can't figure out where everybody is getting this idea from. The only thing that I see resembled from a videogame in this episode is William's sword, but I keep on picturing Cloud's sword.

I have seen similarities between Aelita and Shadow (from the Sonic the Hedgehog series) in the past, but many of these things are commonly used in cartoons and games. No, I will not explain all the similarities here--though you may be surprised at some of them I've found.

[animenologist offline]

See my analogy for a better comparison. It may have been his first time, but he was warned repeatedly about the serious nature of their business several times and if he wasn't going to take it seriously, he shouldn't have entered the scanner, which they gave him multiple opportunities to do so. If a rookie cop made a situation worse which ended in death because he failed to follow protocol, or a new private in the military decided for glory to give away their position to the enemy in a wartime situation, means he's being an idiot of the highest order, which is exactly what William was doing. In either of those situations, if the rookie managed to come back alive, he's not going to have the opportunity to do it again.

And their is no such large sword. Rurouni Kenshin is not an accurate martial arts history. A sword that large would of bent at the fulcrum, due to the weight of the blade and the relatively small handle if unlucky. If it didn't, it would have been largely unwieldable. If you're going to use such a sword in battle, you'd get only one swing, if that, and would require a large amount of distance between troops and time in order to gather the momentum before the 1st or 2nd guy cuts you down. Theres a reason why most swords used for battle were not greater than 10 lbs although decorative swords can be huge. And there is a weapon and tactic to defend against horses, a line of infantryman carrying pikes. More men, less metal, still historically effective.

[Taelia offline]

Now William and XANA are one! What are we gonna do?

[Tekirai offline]

Woah.

I missed, like, 15 minutes of it because of Youtube's servers but still. Woah.

Jeremie's icon pwns all.

Nice one, Ulrich. xD That father/son thing was awesome. Although I missed however it started. -.-; Missed the Hiroki thing too.

LYOKO WILLIAM LOOKS... SCARY. I dunno. I think it's his eyebrows...

Step awayyy from the giant jellyfish, Billy. ... step AWAY. AWAYYY.

Gah. It's common sense! Would you hop over and eat if if you saw an ice cream cone with tentacles and a random vital organ in it?

Lyoko go kablam! Oh nose! Hoppy's still alive!

Fskfughigfqu. *dances* That was one freaking sweet finale.

Next stop: S4! To the internet!

[Writing_Addict offline]

Now William and XANA are one! What are we gonna do?

What are we going to do? Who knows, maybe William...well yea I guess he's still William. (I think.) William could be brought back. (Where ever he is.) and Xana....Xana's mostly become unpredictable in my case. After "Tidal Wave" I don't know what to think of Xana then BOOM. "Final Round" came and I have no clue in the worldly life of my 15 years on earth I cannot even think about what Xana will do next.

Well I actually got this one idea going to the bathroom and I even acted it out. (I seriously have a habit of doing that.)

Xanliam shows up a Kadiac and scares the living-you-know what out of them. And attempts to capture the gang? I don't know.

[Taelia offline]

He thought of it as a fricking video game, for goodness sakes! That was pretty stupid of Will.

[Writing_Addict offline]

He thought of it as a fricking video game, for goodness sakes! That was pretty stupid of Will.

*sighs* Hey Taelia, that point was made a couple pages ago. But yeah.

[Waves_blade offline]

Great episode i geuss. I liked Aelita's Attitude towards William At the beggining of his lyoko Experience. Frustrated and annoyed. As for X-William, tch he got lucky, cought Aelita by suprise IMO, she never should have gotten that close to him when he got possesed, well i supose that realy did'nt matter with that beam blade of his. I tend to agree he was made overly powerful. The jumping from great hights and cracking the ground was unneccesary IMO. He got Odd cheaply, same with Ulrich, and sneak attacked Yumi. O well it was still a great episode (Yumi scored the only Kill! (Besides William)).

[Haruno Sakura offline]

This... episode... was... awesome!

I loved how Ulrich stood up for himself, against his dad. I hated how stupid Sam didn't tell Odd that he needed to go to lyoko. I want to shoot her. SHOOT. Yumi's little brother, (I know his name, but don't know how to spell it) was being rather annoying... Aelita was the pwn today, she was so rude against William. Yay!

As for William, he looked cool, his sword was awesome... but he was too strong... it was so un-fair. POOPOO on william. I wanted him to have magic arrows, or some organic bombs xDD

The ending was pretty cool too. ^^

10/10

[FormicaArchonis offline]

As for William, he looked cool, his sword was awesome... but he was too strong... it was so un-fair. POOPOO on william. I wanted him to have magic arrows, or some organic bombs xDD

I figured it'd be a sword or something similar - a melee weapon, at any rate - because there's already a lot of ranged fighters. Of course, I also figured William would be around for longer....

[Cassius335 offline]

And another idea which is that the message Franz Hopper gave at the end of this show from the Internet is a message on how Lyoko can be recreated within the Internet!

Did you have to bold type that? Are you desperate for Moonscoop to do something else?

[Ari Rockefeller offline]

Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if he disapproved of him being with Yumi simply because she's Japanese.

Heh, I can see it now. "Ulrich I forbid you to be with this CHINESE girl."

I'd love to see Yumi's reaction. ^_^ And Ulrich's...I think.

A string of Japanese curses just before a well placed boot from Yumi? (seriously, have you taken a good look at her footwear? Those things look like they HURT.)

(shrug) I dunno, given Mr. Stern's attitude, he doesn't really strike me as the...tolerant type...

[Darkborn offline]

Anyone else notice this?


What do you think? is it real?

[LadyLucy offline]

No...I think they just forgot...

But then again...it's not like anybody really pays that much attention to the little notices when the show's going.