kunai's or shurikens

[matsumo itsu offline]

hey people. I am planing on being a ninja when i get older, and want to know which is better,Kunai's or shurikens(sp?). so that i know which to train with first, im more of a range fighter.

[Gauntlet offline]

Why not just bust out of the foam sword? Maybe you can pelt them to death with the little pieces of styrofoam that break off your katana, too. *fwip! fwip!* (< That is actually the sound of your sword swinging through the air.)

*crack* (< That is the sound of breaking it off a dandelion.)

...I'm really not sure if this is a serious thread or not. Moreover, I am questioning why you wouldn't want to be a pirate instead of a nerdy ninja. Arrrgh.

[matsumo itsu offline]

this is for real, if you didnt hear im planing on becoming a ninja, i dont lie.

[Gauntlet offline]

this is for real, if you didnt hear im planing on becoming a ninja, i dont lie.

Just curious, did you pick up a tutorial you found on google on "How to be a Ninja"? Do you have a back-up plan to make some money? Are you sure you're already set in your ways? Do you have the determination and tenacity to keep up a "ninja" lifestyle?

Also, this really won't be something you can do in your free time. Classifying it as a ninja isn't correct, either; I'm pretty confident that you won't be <s>running</s> stealthing around your house in a ninja outfit everyday, and that you may actually have to have a job. Being a ninja won't make you money. Your physical prowess would be better placed in a money-making career, such as a stunt man, or a stunt double, if you do choose to pursue a more physical profession.

Oh, and should you lose one of your fingers playing with a shuriken, there is no reset button on this game. Pray you do not stumble upon an enemy rival clan of Bojutsuzimbabwe, either.

[matsumo itsu offline]

i do have a back up plan, and i am planing on trying to get hired when my training is done. which my be years later. like 5,10, or 20 years if i want to be the best.i got to study as many martial art style's all types of fighting. work on speed stealth strength.Everything.

[Kamekai offline]

I say go for it!

I mean, who cares if it gets you absolutely nowhere in life, and who cares if it gets you far in life, just become one with your inner ninja!

[Gauntlet offline]

i do have a back up plan, and i am planing on trying to get hired when my training is done. which my be years later. like 5,10, or 20 years if i want to be the best.i got to study as many martial art style's all types of fighting. work on speed stealth strength.Everything.

Alright, now everything is starting to look fuzzy. You want to study all martial art styles, yes? Then what does it matter if you use a kunai or a shuriken--you'll train with them, but you'll never go toe-to-toe, the real deal, with anything except a stack of hay. Your first few posts, and thread title, are really contradicting what you just said.

What do you want to be, a ninja, or a martial artist? A martial artist is a reasonable profession--it will take years of dedication and perseverance, and eventually you may become someone popular, and may make some money (though that should only come second if you truly enjoy money). I have no idea what their pay is, but I'm pretty sure martial artists don't get paid heaps. Ninjas, on the other hand--what? They may hire you for a child's birthday party, perhaps to spike the clown's punch, but that's about it... Again, kunai or shuriken, neither will matter since they have no use other than practiced forms (kata, I think they're called).

Look. It's nice that you seem interested in this; I'm sure everyone wants to be physically fit, and pursue a career that they will enjoy. Happiness, yeah? But some sacrifices have to be made, and you do have to open your eyes eventually. Training to become a martial artist will take longer than you may expect; you may come across some bumps in the road, such as unemployment (hopefully not), and may have to find that booting your training for something more important, such as your job, will have to happen.

The thread title doesn't look good either. I probably mentioned it several times already, but asking if a kunai is better than a shuriken...makes it seem like this is a video game, or a training card, and that you don't know very much already.

You're young. There's still time to crash and burn. There's still time to have a learning experience and milestone in your life (and something you can smile about when you get older and reflect on yourself). Planning ahead is good, but you are still young, young enough to not have a full understanding of the exact magnitude of such proportions. You still have plenty of time to dream, and plenty of time before you can actually start working on them.

"Some people dream of success while others wake up and work hard at it."

[Malkmusian offline]

I don't think ninjas exist anymore.

[Overcaffeinated Sloth offline]

Why not just bust out of the foam sword? Maybe you can pelt them to death with the little pieces of styrofoam that break off your katana, too. *fwip! fwip!* (< That is actually the sound of your sword swinging through the air.)

*crack* (< That is the sound of breaking it off a dandelion.)

That's what Roxas did. and he went evil.

Actually, yes, ninjas do exist. There are schools where you can go to lear nit. See Mythbusters, as they did a ninjas special with a real live ninja!

Well, Kunai are nice, and very handy in hand to hand combat and mid-range, so it's an overall good weapon. However, it doesn't seem to do so well with long distance attacks, so it's not effective there. However, shurikens can have spins onthem which change the path, making them harder to dodge. But they're not too good close up.

Also, I'd like to note that even though Ninjas acually operated in a world that was like naruto, with the protective missions, but that no longer exists, as the national Government has taken their place (So, really, we're kinda being run by ninjas...)

And StG, stop crushing the kid. If he wants the opinion, then you should give it to him. He's not looking for flames or anything.

[Gauntlet offline]

And StG, stop crushing the kid. If he wants the opinion, then you should give it to him. He's not looking for flames or anything.

I'm not crushing him, and I am most certainly not flaming him. I'm challenging him to think about what he's actually asking, and if he knows exactly what he's going to do. This sounds like an overnight thing, and I really don't believe that is the kind of question he should be asking (if he claims to train with weapons and learn as many martial art moves as he can, what's it matter if he uses the Kunai or Shuriken?).

If I wanted to crush him as a person, you would know it.

Edit: I realize I sound like a total *ss. I'm fine with that, and I'm not going to change any of my posts, but I'm not trying to put him down as a person, or to crush whatever dreams he had, but just asking him if he's ready, and understand exactly what he's asking and doing.

However, he is still a child (and I don't mean a baby, but still young enough to be considered a child by law), so dream. Dream all you want. Use the shuriken if you'd like. AB already listed the pros and cons.

[Tekirai offline]

I don't think ninjas exist anymore.

Is it so wrong for me to find that post hilarious?

Hrmm... personally shuriken look easier to use than kunai. You just chuck them, really, while with kunai you have to chuck them with STYLE.

... I'm not helping, am I?

So, yeah. I would go for shuriken if you're into long-distance attacks.

[Haruno Sakura offline]

First, STG, we understand you're telling him to think about it, but honestly, how much younger is he than you? I'm sure he has thought about it, not very many just go into something without thinking about it first. But, you are kind of tearing up his dreams. Ninja's kind of don't exist in a way, but martial artists can still use Kunai and Shuriken.

I'd go for Kunai. I have real ones, and I practice with them. I can reach about 35 feet with them, and my accuracy is almost precise. They're a great close combat weapon too.

Shuriken are A LOT easier to throw, but they have an akward spin, and you could end up hitting something else, other than your prime target. Plus, they suck for close combat.

I'd go with Kunai.

[Gauntlet offline]

I don't think anyone understand exactly what I'm getting at, but, admittedly, I haven't explained everything.

I wasn't trying to pull a freaky vampiric soul-nourishment "if I don't get it, neither can you!" thing on EyeOfTheEmo. I was only trying to help him out. Dreams have never come true for me, though that doesn't mean I was trying to stop his from happening. I realize that I may have came off a bit harsher than everyone else, but I wasn't attempting to tear down whatever he may want. For all I know, that could be all he has going for him in his life, just dreams, and it would be a shame to take that away from him.

[Overcaffeinated Sloth offline]

I don't think anyone understand exactly what I'm getting at, but, admittedly, I haven't explained everything.

I wasn't trying to pull a freaky vampiric soul-nourishment "if I don't get it, neither can you!" thing on EyeOfTheEmo. I was only trying to help him out. Dreams have never come true for me, though that doesn't mean I was trying to stop his from happening. I realize that I may have came off a bit harsher than everyone else, but I wasn't attempting to tear down whatever he may want. For all I know, that could be all he has going for him in his life, just dreams, and it would be a shame to take that away from him.

Truly you have not realized the accomplishment of a dream. And you have not yet realized what it can do, because you are still looking at the same idea and view. You lack what can be understood as the appropriate balance of maturity and respect at the moment, and it's that balance that's setting other's off.

I'd really like you to stop discussing it here, if you want to talk about it, I'd be happy to receive a PM from you Otherwise, this is spamming. And I request it stops with this.

And as to the point of shurikens v kunais, Shurikens, if gripped properly, can also be used in hand to hand combat, but they can still be pushed back onto the hand resulting in a bad cut...


Ultimately, a shuriken with a hole in the center, a small loose rod, and wire attatched to both sides that join on the other side then leads to a wire'd make a good weapon, and the right pull on the wire'd improve accuracy and control.

[YDV offline]

.....Dude ninjas in the sense of assassins-for-hire do not exist anymore. You kind of get put in jail for that kind of stuff nowadays. :/

[Gauntlet offline]

Truly you have not realized the accomplishment of a dream. And you have not yet realized what it can do, because you are still looking at the same idea and view. You lack what can be understood as the appropriate balance of maturity and respect at the moment, and it's that balance that's setting other's off.

I'd really like you to stop discussing it here, if you want to talk about it, I'd be happy to receive a PM from you Otherwise, this is spamming. And I request it stops with this.

Your personal attack is not very mature or respectful, if I may add. I wasn't asking you for your personal opinion on me--you don't even know me, and you have no right to judge me so. I was not attacking EyeOfTheEmo; I was giving him some feedback in case he had overlooked such things (which, I felt, he did). Apparently, though, I deserve a slap in the face for doing so. I love how no one actually looked behind my crude humor and understood what I was saying.

Even though my responses do not fit his particular question ("kunai or shuriken"), this would still apply to his dream, thus, I believe it is acceptable. However, I'm suddenly being accused of being immature and disrespectful for giving some first-hand experience on this subject, and everyone is forgetting who we were speaking to in the first place. I believe that this thread should not be locked, but if people still continue to question me instead of focusing on EyeOfTheEmo's problem and well-being, then maybe it should be locked.

If you have any personal problems with me, please, send a private message. Otherwise, stop putting the spotlight on me on this thread and remember who we were originally addressing--EyeOfTheEmo, not St. Gauntlet.

[Haruno Sakura offline]

It seems like what AngelBolt said was ignored. Continue this discussion through PM's please.

EyeoftheEmo, if you want an easy way to throw farther with "ninja tools" than use shuriken. It took me a well few weeks to get good at throwing kunai.

[matsumo itsu offline]

okay i think i will go for shurikens, thanks. oh and back off of st. gauntlet, he is a good guy and did not bring me down. No matter how hard people try they cant bring me down one bit. And i know it was a mear(sp?) joke. and im fine with it so lay off him guys.But i do think shurikens will work better since more aerodynamic. thanks.

[Lola offline]

ug. I don't like either. and read this. this is what my friend told me about ninjas. its not cool. you don't want to be a ninja.

Ninjas, for one, don't exist anymore. From what I've seen of this post, EyeOfTheEmo, you're being influenced by Naruto. Ninjas were ruthless assasins hired by shoguns to kill opposing shoguns for land during Japan's feudal era. The martial art Ninjitsu is a real style, but it is nothing but breaking necks and killing. That's not a career you want to go into, killing people for a living. You'll also never get hired as a ninja. Also, becomming a ninja doesn't take 5 or so years. In Japan's feudal era, ninjas were trained in Ninjitsu all of their life and started as soon as they could walk. The other posters were right. Don't become a ninja. Do something else. Not only are you searching for a lifestyle that doesn't exist anymore, but you'd never be able to live it anyway.

thats what he said when I asked him which was better.
I like the idea of being a stuntman though. that sounds really really cool

[matsumo itsu offline]

i am not being influenced by naruto, ive wanted to be a ninja as long as i can remember.

[Lola offline]

Nick says find a good ninjitsu or ishonryu school

he also says that the throwing knives and throwing stars were made for two seperate things so neither is really better than the other

[jaimehlers offline]

I would be interested in hearing your reasons for wanting to become a ninja.

I am not about to tell you that you shouldn't be one, because it's no sillier than wanting to be any other profession. I'm just wondering what your reasons are.

[matsumo itsu offline]

to tell you the truth im not sure, probably just the thrill of it, i dont like a job that has absolutely no danger, and i want to live life to the fullest and have as much fun and thrill possible.so i choose ninja. and it combines alot of forms of martial arts like ninjitsu,taijitsu,tae qwon dou(sp?)karate, and more i hear, and you can use the shuriken,kunai, swords. it just seems like a thing i want to do.

[jaimehlers offline]

Well, then it sounds like you should at least pursue martial arts for now.

Just a couple of pointers, though. Ninjitsu is not actually martial arts, but refers instead to techniques that involve ninja tools, such as shuriken and other such things. Taijitsu, at least as used in Naruto, refers more to generic marital arts rather than a specific style, so both tae qwon do and karate would fall under the category of taijitsu.

[matsumo itsu offline]

Congratulation everyone, I've decided to become a samuri thanks to you all.Thanks.