Columbine got superbed...

[MY85 offline]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18134671/

In the words of Ron Simmons: D*mn!

Yeah, the USA gets shootings again... a reason why I wouldn't live there.

[CotS offline]

This is indeed disgraceful... sometimes I think that if some people would use the brains they were given, we wouldn't need to worry about shootings, or bombings and other such things...

[Gauntlet offline]

This was a sad event, and my best wishes go out to the families devastated by this, and my prayers will go out to those who lost their lives.

Most people--regardless of race or nationality--tend to dehumanize the "enemy", so I assume you're following the same pattern. To me, it sounds like your disgust with the United States lies with the people, the real victims, when you should really be looking at the government. While I understand why you'd hate the US government based on foreign policy, and everything you see from us, it sounds like you hold us all together as the enemy.

Sure, violence such as this is another reason not to live in the United States, think of it that way. I have no doubt that your government is so peachy keen and perfect. I have no doubt that your country is not ravaged by discrimination, common accidents, and crimes. You have every right to hate the United States, but don't hate the people. Unless you live here, you have no idea what the actual problems are. You have no idea how so many people don't have health insurance, are homeless, and are living below poverty level.

Have some better taste when you're posting things like this. You're not making a point when you post in such a manner.

[CotS offline]

Are you refffering to me or MY?
If it's me you are talking about, I'm just ranting about how the people that commit such crime usually think they are out of options, or they just loose control of themselves. and if they would use the brains they were given they would almos always be able to find ways out of their current situation, And they would realize that going into a place and shooting the heck out of everyone, or blowing themselves up isn't going to do anything but land them in jail, or a grave (or both).
also for if you are reffering to me; I live in the U.S. that's part of why I'm so angry.

[Gauntlet offline]

Are you refffering to me or MY?
If it's me you are talking about, I'm just ranting about how the people that commit such crime usually think they are out of options, or they just loose control of themselves. and if they would use the brains they were given they would almos always be able to find ways out of their current situation, And they would realize that going into a place and shooting the heck out of everyone, or blowing themselves up isn't going to do anything but land them in jail, or a grave (or both).
also for if you are reffering to me; I live in the U.S. that's part of why I'm so angry.

No, I'm sorry PotterFreak. I was talking to MY. I agree with what you said.

[Zaria offline]

Yes, shootings are bad, and they anger me. However, what angers me even further is people who make generalizations of the U.S., and say it's a horrible country to live in. As a matter of fact, it's not. Yes, you hear about all of the bad things that happen in the United States, but there much more good things that happen in the U.S., too. You shouldn't listen to the media so much. They only report the bad stuff, and it's a pity that the good deeds that are done don't get the spotlight, as well. Please, next time, don't make such judgmental comments about places you don't even live in.

[CotS offline]

Are you refffering to me or MY?
If it's me you are talking about, I'm just ranting about how the people that commit such crime usually think they are out of options, or they just loose control of themselves. and if they would use the brains they were given they would almos always be able to find ways out of their current situation, And they would realize that going into a place and shooting the heck out of everyone, or blowing themselves up isn't going to do anything but land them in jail, or a grave (or both).
also for if you are reffering to me; I live in the U.S. that's part of why I'm so angry.

No, I'm sorry PotterFreak. I was talking to MY. I agree with what you said.

Okay ^^; I just wanted to plead my case

[MY85 offline]

Gaunlet: There are many things that disgust me about USA. Yet, I still like the country. In many aspects, it's a much better country that the one I was born and the one where I live in (full of poverty, corruption, screwed economy, sh*tty education, etc.). I'll reply more to that later.

And obviously, I'm joking with the poll. Although, I lol'd at the fact that "Best Massacre Ever" got a vote.

[Mewberries151]

Gaunlet: There are many things that disgust me about USA. Yet, I still like the country. In many aspects, it's a much better country that the one I was born and the one where I live in (full of poverty, corruption, screwed economy, sh*tty education, etc.). I'll reply more to that later.

And obviously, I'm joking with the poll. Although, I lol'd at the fact that "Best Massacre Ever" got a vote.

It doesn't matter if it's a joke or not. This is a highly sensitive and tragic event and it's really rather insensitive to make light of it in any way. Kindly keep the feelings of those connected with the event as well as those who may not have been but still feel deeply about it, in mind next time when creating a thread, Rodri.

[MY85 offline]

Two votes for "Best Massacre Ever". I know one of the persons who voted for it, but I wonder who voted for that option as well.

Students complained that there were no public-address announcements or other warnings on campus after the first burst of gunfire. They said the first word they received from the university was an e-mail more than two hours into the rampage - around the time the gunman struck again.

"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," said Virginia Tech president Charles Steger. "The university is shocked and indeed horrified."

It was not immediately clear whether the gunman was shot by police or took his own life. Investigators offered no motive for the attack. The gunman's name was not immediately released, and it was not known if he was a student.

The shootings spread panic and confusion on campus. Witnesses reporting students jumping out the windows of a classroom building to escape the gunfire. SWAT team members with helmets, flak jackets and assault rifles swarmed over the campus. Students and faculty members carried out some of the wounded themselves, without waiting for ambulances to arrive.

The massacre took place at opposite sides of the 2,600-acre campus, beginning at about 7:15 a.m. at West Ambler Johnston, a coed dormitory that houses 895 people, and continuing at least two hours later at Norris Hall, an engineering building about a half-mile away, authorities said.

Police said they were still investigating the shooting at the dorm when they got word of gunfire at the classroom building.

Some students bitterly questioned why the gunman was able to strike a second time.

"What happened today this was ridiculous," student Jason Piatt told CNN. "While they send out that e-mail, 20 more people got killed."

Students and Laura Wedin, a student programs manager at Virginia Tech, said the first notification they got of the shootings came in an e-mail at 9:26 a.m., more than two hours after the first shooting.

The e-mail had few details. It said: "A shooting incident occurred at West Amber Johnston earlier this morning. Police are on the scene and are investigating." The message warned students to be cautious and contact police about anything suspicious.

Student Maurice Hiller said he went to a 9 a.m. class two buildings away from the engineering building, and no warnings were coming over the outdoor public address system on campus at the time.

What the hell kind of emergency respose do they have in Blacksburg, anyway?

[Rail Runner offline]

This is just horrible and senseless. It saddens me to hear about this. Im definitely gonna be nervous on the trip home, as I have to transfer in Virginia. My heart, thoughts, and prayers go out to the families and everyone that was involved with this massacre.

[. offline]

Another day, another whack job shoots up the place. *shrugs* just roll with it and try to avoid the crossfire.

Thing that gets me the most, is that the schmucks who do this don't take responsibilty for their own reactions. They never give the conscicse reason why leaving the idoits we elect to rule our lives to decide. They blame it on the guns or the video games or lack of Christianity (read Rachel's Tears)

Rather then just blame it on the truth. All it takes is one bad day to make a normal man go insane.

[Reesane offline]

Thing that gets me the most, is that the schmucks who do this don't take responsibilty for their own reactions. They never give the conscicse reason why leaving the idoits we elect to rule our lives to decide. They blame it on the guns or the video games or lack of Christianity (read Rachel's Tears)

You have no idea how agravating I find it when people clame that not being part of their religion means that you have no morals. Sevral people I know (not on this site, thankfuly) made the coment the that the shooter "had not found god".

[. offline]

No joke, I considered myself a devote christian until I read Rachel's Tears (I was force too as the school was high on her Rachel Challenge BS.) and after that I didn't want to be anything like them. Force feeding the word of their beliefs. Their hearts are in the right place, I'm sure but until their brain wakes up and they question things and come to religon whatever it is on their own terms, religon is nothing more than opium for the masses. Whereever we can from, we were given the the gift of a brain and freewell to think for ourselves for a reason, and this is the reason I'm sure.

V.V enough with my ranting before I offend someone... But then again I don't think what I said shall fetch me any flak.

If anything a belief in God just may of made the spree killer go on a crusade the purify the masses <.<

[Rail Runner offline]

Regardless of what made him do it...it wont change the fact that it was done.

[yumi_yemimah offline]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18134671/

In the words of Ron Simmons: D*mn!

Yeah, the USA gets shootings again... a reason why I wouldn't live there.

so....where do you live, if you dont mind me asking.

[Ghost Guest offline]

I've just watched the videos that lunatic sent to NBC... his "reasoning" is pretty screwed up... and cliched, you know, "I didn't want to do it, but they left me no choice, etc". He was not only crazy, but unoriginal.

And it really is lame the way these reporters interviewed the victims' relatives as soon as they could. These people were still in shock and the reporters showed no compassion for them. It's all about making the news as dramatic as possible... disgusting.

Anyway, poor people... Let's just hope another creep doesn't try to beat this record.

[Stonecreek]

Those supposedly disturbing plays this guy wrote were not that disturbing to me. Sure, they discuss pedophilia, murder, abuse, and swear a lot, and that's creepy and all, but what struck me most about them was simply how bad they were from a writer's standpoint. This was crap a freshman in high school would churn out and probably not even call decent. I have to wonder about the shooter's mental age, and not juts his mental state like the media has been harping on. Go find the plays online and read them and see if you agree with me.

[Rail Runner offline]

It serves to gives you a glimpes into his mind. Scary indeed.

[MY85 offline]

30 USA people get killed, the world makes a big deal out of it.

Many poor people die in Iraq thanks to USA soldiers, no one gives a crap.

[Gauntlet offline]

30 USA people get killed, the world makes a big deal out of it.

Many poor people die in Iraq thanks to USA soldiers, no one gives a crap.

Yeah. April 14th, two days before the Virginia Tech shooting, 47 people are killed, and 150 are wounded in suicide bombings. No one bats an eye. Apparently, the recurring deaths in Iraq have been overshadowed by this event. It's just a load of crap. I hate to hear these things; it's a terrible thing to hear both events, but no one even notices that close to 200 people nearly died.

I mean, they're just Iraqis, right? No one gives a crap, right? Right. It's pitiful. I'm not a politics major or anything, but I'm pretty sure the entire war could have been avoided if they had compromised. It's really just picking apart the weak countries, and the ones with oil, when you think about it.

I agree, though; it's horrible how snobby most of the citizens and government of the United States are. While the United States is a great place in some aspects, we are just as bad. The media outside has all these facts, and we're completely blind. I really don't know how this country hasn't been run into the ground, to be honest.

Also, sorry if it seemed like a threat earlier, MY. I just got a little defensive, even though I'm willing to bash my own country (lol, you figure that one out). Where are you from, anyways?

[. offline]

30 USA people get killed, the world makes a big deal out of it.

Many poor people die in Iraq thanks to USA soldiers, no one gives a crap.

In the inner city of New York, we shoot each other up all the time. But no one cares. It's only when it occours in the suburbs of the mid-west and down south that people get all freaked out... Of course New York City'ers do their shit outside.

And in the suburbs of Long Island, let me tell you. Someone wrote a gun threat on the girls lockerroom yesterday for the 26th and the 28th. The 28th is a saturday, and when I found that out me and a lot of other people laughed their heads off. That being said I'm probbly going to get shot now but hey, I'm a pathetic loser whos going to be dead at 40 anyway... and if the shooter is too stupid to use a calender than hey, that means an increase chance of survival

[Tom Bone offline]

This was a sad event, and my best wishes go out to the families devastated by this, and my prayers will go out to those who lost their lives.

What Gauntlet said. This is why schools should have better security.