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Postby Reesane » Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:19 pm

Yes, but what about the long term possession theorys? We know that you can over load a possessed person (Odd in tip top shape) but will some one were down after a while?

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Postby Omega » Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:41 pm

Maybe the screen was 'cleared', maybe it accidentally 'X'-ed out of his terminal session, maybe there was a password... I don't know.


Maybe.... any other ideas? It could have just sort of.... dissapeared *creepy music*
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Postby animenologist » Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:46 am

EPISODE 13: JUST IN TIME

In this episode, Jeremie created a new program to materialize Aelita that was able produce a single hair containing her complete genetic and computer code. But due to unseen bugs in the program, Jeremie accidentally deleted the annex programs that connects Aelita to the tower when she enters the code. Thus upon entering the code, she is reformatted by the supercomputer.

XANA's method of attack for this episode was to infect the school's electrical system. After doing so, he used it to create high frequency ultrasounds that caused the school building and foundation to collapse. Due to Kiwi's heightened sense of hearing, he is able to detect when a blast of ultrasound was coming.

At the end of the episode, Aelita was reformatted when Jeremie was unable to debug his program to restore Aelita's annex program before she deactivated the tower. Jeremie was able to restore Aelita by using the hair to reproduce her code in its entirety. Understandably, she had no recollection of the events, as the code in the hair only contained her memories up to the point of its materialization.

EPISODE 14: THE TRAP

A very simplistic attack, XANA infected the freight elavator that transported the gang to the various floors of the complex. After gaining control of the elavator he released it causing it to plummet to ground floor. The crash caused a breech in a wall that was adjacent to the river that the factory was next to causing the elavator to flood.

EPISODE 15: LAUGHING FIT

In this episode, XANA infected a few canisters of nitrous oxide, or laughing gas. Using similar methods in Holiday in the Fog, he was able to replicate the gas so that it was able to fill the entire laboratory. He also used the energy from ZPE-space to propel it to its intended destination and gave the gas minor protection to water which can neutralize it, allowing time for the gas to escape and then reapply itself to a target.

Some of the gas was also virtualized in the scanner with Odd and during transfer, caused corruption of his virtual packet. The gas possibly damaged Odd's neural files giving Odd similar symptoms relating to oxygen depravation, symptoms normally associated to long term exposure to nitrous oxide.
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Feel free to reply. 11 more episodes before we can get to season 2. Trying to remember the season 1 episodes after so long is a strain on my mind.
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Postby Cassius335 » Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:12 am

TB3 wrote:To Cassius;
Aelita's still a little bit 'iffy' - we're relying on the idea that since her original DNA was lost, her data is treated a little bit differently in Lyoko as she is in essence, a tue 'sythesised' human instead of a virtual extension of biological data - though in reality her body is perfectly stable.

And when you say 'what order will you use', what do you mean exactly?


Season 2 ep order.

As for Aelita, I guess we'll find out. Though I would not be surprised if she materialised just fine after being devirtulised.
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Postby Cassius335 » Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:19 am

animenologist wrote:EPISODE 7: IMAGE PROBLEM


Quick suggestion: Maybe a note of the fact that the real Yumi suicided out (with Ulrich's help) because the S2 Rematt program wasn't ready?
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Postby Cassius335 » Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:21 am

TB3 wrote:Ah, sorry about the number mistake. Somehow I managed to get a maths degree from secondary school and I appear to have forgotten all of it.

EPISODE TEN: THE GIRL OF THE DREAMS
XANA uses a spectre to animate a suit of Japanese Samurai armour that was an heirloom of the Ishiyama family.

In the first steps towards creating an new construct as seen in 'XANA's Kiss' and 'Franz Hopper', the routers were able to create blocky limbs within the armour for it to walk on, though XANA's inexperience with this technique caused a minor energy leak through the routers from ZPE-Space. This effect gave the armour a visible glow.

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Short and sweet. I guess it's you next. :)


No mention of Tealia?
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Postby comex » Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:46 am

Is Claustrophobia 16 or 14? :P

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Postby animenologist » Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:13 pm

To answer Cassius555 questions.

1. I believe we'll go with the numbered order, not the premiering order, as thats the way it was meant to be shown.

2. Maybe its true Aelita devirtualizes like normal, but as of now, all evidence points to her being unable to devirtualize as normal. For one, Jeremie hasn't devirtualized her with the normal program, and I think he would have tried. Two Jeremie says so, and that usually holds a lot of weight as is though not 100% as shown with the somatic senses. Three, Xana believes so and he runs the supercomputer and Lyoko and would be intune with the Lyoko's workings, including Aelita's materialization. So until we are given evidence to the contrary, we have to keep it that. Thats how theories work, take evidence and reach logical conclusions and so far all the evidence points to her not being able to devirtualize like normal.

3. The real Yumi had to suicide out because Jeremie wasn't there to materialize her out of Lyoko. If you recall in Image Problem, after Jeremie realized the fake Yumi wasn't virtualized, he went down to investigate and was promptly knocked out. So no one at the console, means no materialization. Same principle in Common Interest, though the latter was unsuccessful.

4. This is for the most part is a tech and science-related thread, and so we deal technical questions concerning Lyoko and Xana and his attacks and their method and sometimes go into the specifics. Though Taelia was a major plot point for that episode, she was a plot device, technically not related to Lyoko (is that a pun?).

And to answer comex's question, yeah, Claustrophobia was 16. TB3's number senses are acting up again. ;)
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Postby Omega » Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:54 pm

TB3 wrote:And Omega, you might have some nice points on the OS for the console - could you explain a little bit more.


Well, in most OS's, the Command Line Interface (i.e. Command Prompt for Windows and Konsole for Linux) can recall what was typed up to the point to where it started. It looses all of that info when it is closed (except in Unix where it is stored somewhere in the Root directory). So, either Jeremy was using some funky, crappy, downloaded program off the web, or the OS for the supercomputer (and his laptop and computer in his dorm, as they all run the same way) has some weird ways to run programs. OR the last possiblilty is that the writers were lazy and didn't do their homework :wag:
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Postby YDV » Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:21 pm

Erm.. the dude has matrix code running on his screens. I think that qualifies as a weird OS. :P

But no, seriously, I think it was a program he created himself, or he got from the Supercomputer. It wasn't really a command prompt-- more like a, um... coding.. program... specifically for making Lyoko stuff. So maybe it has different rules.
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Postby Omega » Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:43 pm

I can agree with that. Both of you (TB3, I think you meant Omega, not Comex). I can't really argue, as I don't think it comes on again for me for a while. Either way thanks!
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Postby animenologist » Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:02 pm

35. jeremy
Both. A true miracle: while falling, Régalisses modified and started again the program! I do not know how... but it goes!

36. odd
Extra! Then you can materialize Aelita?

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37. jeremy
Ben yes... but only once only: I did not see the sequences of programming which the candies typed!



This is what I translated using Microsoft Word, using the episode scripts at http://www.codelyoko.fr

Make of it what you will.

Anyways, next episode

EPISODE 17: AMNESIA

XANA uses his routers to bond with and control little microscopic nano-bots. These nano-bots are used to enter a persons body and attack the memory portions of their brain causing amnesia and in some cases, severe mental retardation. The nano-bots are replicated and then spread to other hosts through airborne nano bots or contact with each other, where they replicate, attack the new hosts brain, and start the process anew.

Of interesting note, when Ulrich was virtualized, he still had amnesia. If the scanners had any healing properties relating to it, they are either very limited or are fixed after the devirtualization process, as the body is being rebuilt.
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Postby animenologist » Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:40 pm

Good point, I should probably include it in my summary as a possibility. Getting closer to finishing Season 1. After this, should only be 8 more episodes, than we can get to season 2, which many of our contributors are much more familiar with.

EPISODE 18: KILLER MUSIC

Xana creates a musical mp3 that is spread throughout the internet as a first stage for his attack. Unbeknownst to the listeners, the music contained a hidden ultrasound that acts as sonic weapons that puts listeners into a comatose state. We can infer that the ultrasound inhibits the brains electromagnetic signals causing a disruption in normal brain activity, including the parts that operates vital functions.

At stage two of his plan, as a way of spreading his sonic weaponry around, he sent out an overpowering radio signal, allowing his song to be played on every radio frequency, affecting anyone within hearing range of the music. He also hacked into the factories speakers in order to effect Jeremie.
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I think TB3 should take Frontier next. He wrote that very nice post concerning what happened to Jeremie and the buffer folder.

Wow, page 18, my how the pages just fly by.
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Postby animenologist » Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:23 am

Guess I'm taking this one.

EPISODE 20: THE ROBOTS

For the first and only time, XANA uses the factory equipment on the top floor of the factory to create his method of attack. XANA used the equipment to create android robots for the purpose of eliminating the kids. The robots downloaded information about its four targets, Odd, Ulrich, Yumi, and Jeremie, for profiles and identification from the console, before shutting it down so that it was rendered inoperable. Xana was able to create three working robots, one of which rampaged through the school, but was brought down by Yumi and Ulrich using a mobile robotic drill constructed by Herve Pichon. The other two acted as guards to intercept any defenders who attempted to enter the factor after their creation..

While the console was rendered inoperable, the holomap, the scanners, and communciation to Aelita through the console were shut down aswell. Jeremie was able to remain in contact with Aelita by using his laptop, until the console was up and running again, thanks to a combined effort between Jeremie and Odd.
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Postby Cassius335 » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:00 am

animenologist wrote:To answer Cassius555 questions.

1. I believe we'll go with the numbered order, not the premiering order, as thats the way it was meant to be shown.


Fair enough.

animenologist wrote:3. The real Yumi had to suicide out because Jeremie wasn't there to materialize her out of Lyoko. If you recall in Image Problem, after Jeremie realized the fake Yumi wasn't virtualized, he went down to investigate and was promptly knocked out. So no one at the console, means no materialization. Same principle in Common Interest, though the latter was unsuccessful.


There's that too! :)

But do we really think Jeremy had the Rematt program ready that soon, even if he had been at the console? All his spare time during S1 went into materialising Aelita...
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Postby animenologist » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:20 am

Or it could of been slow to the point of being near useless for emergency escapes. We know for one that Jeremie has the potential improve upon original Lyoko technology, as seen with the super scanner and altering the cards to have increased power. Could be possible that there was a rematerialization program, its just wasn't very fast, thus the reason for Jeremie saying "Remind me to boost that program." in St. Valentines Day.

Anyways, I'm of the opinion that the rematerialization program has always been there, either not found or not utilized. After all, most of the times they just RTTP right away, so they don't find time to use as often.

For one, its kinda odd that the developers would create a way to get into Lyoko and not have a way to get out.

Two, Jeremie doesn't list it as one of his developemental accomplishments in New Order.

Three, in Frontier, Jeremie was planning on being virtualized for an hour during lunch time. Since he was using a default avatar, he was planning on going in with no weapons, so he can't suicide out by himself. That would mean either Yumi would need to virtualize another player to help him along, though thats unlikely, since it was probably mind-boggling enough to virtualize one of them, two w/o Jeremie she might not have been able to take. Or he could of asked Aelita to do it, which would have been a nice send off after an apology.

Four, in order to reboot the rematerialization program, Aelita needed to do it from a tower to begin with. Most of Jeremie's programs, including the Marabounta before it became autonomous, had links to the console for remote usage. If the rematerialization program was of his creation, its a wonder why he specifically needed a tower to restart it.

And last, as shown in Exploration, Carthage had a different way of devirtualizing people than on normal Lyoko. In order to retrieve them, they would need a special rematerialization program that can be found only in Carthage. So that shows that Xana has information regarding rematerialization, so its possible to infer normal Lyoko has programs for rematerialization aswell, with a different level of security access.

Though if my logic is flawed in any way, feel free to chime in. The next episode is Zero Gravity Zone, if anyone wants to take it, episode 21.
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Postby comex » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:52 pm

Meh. Can you all put them into the wiki yourselves? It's annoying having to copy and paste them all...that said, later I suppose I have to do the ones that have been posted so far. About 10 of them :P

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