Jeremie x Aelita

[Lani offline]

Haha I butt in again. Sorry. xD;

Well, let's see. Jeremie was born in June 14, '92 (he turned 14 on June 14 2006). By June 6, 1994, he was barely 2. And let's that Aelita was around 12 the at that time when she went into Lyoko. Had Aelita not gone into the supercomputer, she would be about 24 when Jeremie turned 14 on June 14, 2006. So, about Jeremie and Aelita getting together had she not gone into the supercomputer, I say chances are close to none (unless she had a shota fetish, or something)

[Stargate offline]

Ehh, it was all I could think of at the time. >>;

[Cassius335 offline]

It would have to be partly AU to work at all, true. Doesn't mean it ain't worth exploring.

[Stargate offline]

It would have to be partly AU to work at all, true. Doesn't mean it ain't worth exploring.

That's the fun of writing AU fics, really. ^^

Never tried it myself, though I've seen a couple AU/slightly AU JxA fics around.

[Writing_Addict offline]

I've seen all the way AU fics. Like mine. ^_^ It's fun doing AU's. I've left out "going to lyoko" if you've noticed. ^^;

Haha I butt in again. Sorry. xD;

Well, let's see. Jeremie was born in June 14, '92 (he turned 14 on June 14 2006). By June 6, 1994, he was barely 2. And let's that Aelita was around 12 the at that time when she went into Lyoko. Had Aelita not gone into the supercomputer, she would be about 24 when Jeremie turned 14 on June 14, 2006. So, about Jeremie and Aelita getting together had she not gone into the supercomputer, I say chances are close to none (unless she had a shota fetish, or something)

But what about the return to the pasts though? I think that should have changed
some things. But I don't know if that changed anything all the way though.

[Skorpigeist offline]

I am going to start this post by saying how good it is to be back at lyoko freak after such a long interlude of lurking and not posting. I would also like to give a shoutout to all of the older members here who can remember who I am, or those that have changed names... and to the newer members a big hello. I also want to say that I enjoyed season 3 for the most part, with a few exceptions ( like more explanation of Xana's motives.)

Now to get to the meat of my thoughts. Ever since watching Code Lyoko, I have been interested in the AelitaXJeremie dynamic. One reason for this, is that it has always seemed to be the most stable relationship venues in the entire show. As a general rule thier relationship is very affectionate and of a more agape style of love than a lustful type. Thier personalities tend to mesh, although it could become a breaking point between them. Jeremie has, and always will be, the geek and obsessive compulisve worker. If it werent for Aelita ( as indicated by the limited preception the show gives us) he would not be as intwined with the group as he is. He is more content to sit to his computer code and genuis intellect. It is not that he lacks compassion, it is just his element to not be out and about. Aelita on the other hand is a more sociable and loving person. this becomes more apparent as the show continues to air.

In season one we see a very, very, very strong relationship. this stems from the fact that Jeremie is working tirelessly to free aelita from her virtual world. Also, since jeremie is the only one talking to her, aelita develops a strong relationship with him. We don't exactly know what all was shared between them, because we never actually get to see everything they talked about. I can imagine that after awhile jeremie opened up and revealed a lot of his soul. She saw jeremie as her saviour, and that only helped to strengthened the bond. It should also be noted that Aelita was a little more compliant and obedient to jeremie's commands. She was a little more naive about the human world and so put all of her trust completely in jeremie.

Seasons two and three ( I am lumping them together because season 3 was so short) As Aelita came into the real world, she started to develop her own personality away from talking to jeremie all the time. This was not an act of uncaring, but a side effect of developing a life. Jermie seems to be a little slow on the uptake because he still treated her the same way. he worried about her obsessively, and this started to show signs of wearing on her. She developed a love of techno djing and began to become closer to the rest of the gang. Of course, the love was still there, as evidenced in Xana's Kiss. It is just that she is not as obedient to jeremie's decisions and advice. Also in this season we see the whole dynamic of finding out that aelita is human and all the pain with franz hopper "dieing" and then not being dead. That is starting to wear on her emotionally as well. also with getting her memories back, she regained all of her personality that she had when she was human before, so now she is not the naive person she once was, still innocent in a lot of ways, but far from naive. jeremie still is obsessing about beating xana. Aelita even talks about in season three how she still cares about jeremie, but that he doesn't necessairly understand. season four leaves a lot to be determined for them romantically.

so to sum up my thoughts, I still think through 3 seasons that thier relaitionship is still the strongest one in the show. I also have to say that while they are not offically dating, it is the closest that we can get in a kids rated show. I also realize that we are given such a limited view on all of the characters, and so will never fully know every single conversation and thought that is shared between these two. I also would like to point out that as of right now, while complex, jeremie is the most static character on the show right now, which is not healthy for him or his relationship.

[Cassius335 offline]

As a general rule thier relationship is very affectionate and of a more agape style of love than a lustful type.

Which is Eros, right?

If it werent for Aelita ( as indicated by the limited preception the show gives us) he would not be as intwined with the group as he is.

I wouldn't say that. In absence of Aelita, it's possible Ulrich, Odd and Yumi would try to get him outside more.

[Skorpigeist offline]

As a general rule thier relationship is very affectionate and of a more agape style of love than a lustful type.

Which is Eros, right?

If it werent for Aelita ( as indicated by the limited preception the show gives us) he would not be as intwined with the group as he is.

I wouldn't say that. In absence of Aelita, it's possible Ulrich, Odd and Yumi would try to get him outside more.

In response to your first question I believe that the answer is yes. As for the second part of your response, in the movie Xana Awakens, saving aelita from Xana was the whole reason that this group even came together. I think if it weren't for her, then there would be no story because you can tell right off that ulrich and jeremie and the others were not exactly friends. I don't think they would have even bothered with jeremie. Of course this is the impression that I get from the movie.

[Stargate offline]

I think you make excellent points, Skorpigeist.

[Aurabolt offline]

This is my first post, and even though there is a intro post, I had to come in here. I am very happy to see a JxA thread, and I feel I can contribute.

Ever since Jeremie even met Aelita, he has been doing things for her at the expanse of his own physical, mental, and social health. He has no issues protecting her in the real world, and although she has grown in personality, her basic traits do not change; a caring, innocent being who is extremely loyal to her friends, especially Jeremie.

But that's only the tip of the iceberg. Thanks to "Xana Awakens", I have come to a frightening realization about our knightly computer geek. As we all saw, Jeremie, Odd, and Ulrich were not friends at the beginning of this series. They grew into that. They weren't even on appropriate levels of casual conversation, since they were mildly hostile. This leads me to believe that Aelita was Jeremie's first real friend; he was just as lonely as she was. His personality is one of a warm and caring person, but from his cynical actions towards the others, I am lead to believe that he was made fun of and placed down because of his intellect and social standing. Only Aelita got to see that part of him, and his actions toward her, which signify that she was his only friend, her reactions to Jeremie harming himself physically and emotionally are all the more significiant: He is willing to DIE for her. If the show allowed for it, I could easily have seen Aelita calling Jeremie things i've seen in fanfictions to show the sheer amount of worry, and gratitude he has given. Names that come to mind are "Guardian Angel" and "Knight."

But that's not all people. In season 4, I would not be shocked in the least if we finally saw Jeremie enter the scanner to protect her. We all know that Xana could make them die if life points went down again, and I am certain he would put himself in harm's way, and even get over the fear of the scanner, to save his Princess. Aelita knows that too; she tries to downplay it, but that doesn't work, so she truly appricates it as well.

They are the cutest couple. No question.

[Writing_Addict offline]

Another beautiful description. *tear*

[Aurabolt offline]

I think we either need our own part of the forums, to Discuss J/A, or our own site or something, like HP fans have or other shows have. I mean, considering how many their obviously are, we could post fic challenges and improve the fanbase.

[Cassius335 offline]

You're kidding? We've only managed 11 pages in just one topic.

[Aurabolt offline]

Yeah, but it's a pretty big fanbase. Has anyone been to Deviantart lately? Try searching for our favorite couple.

Not trying to advertise, just suggesting.

[Writing_Addict offline]

You're kidding? We've only managed 11 pages in just one topic.

I've got to agree with Cassius here.

[Aurabolt offline]

Then we definately need more fan-fiction focusing on the Geeky Knight and the Princess. Spread the word. at least have it equal the amount of U/Y's out there.

[Skorpigeist offline]

Then we definately need more fan-fiction focusing on the Geeky Knight and the Princess. Spread the word. at least have it equal the amount of U/Y's out there.

First off, I would like to welcome you to the forum. I also agree with previous posters that it is not necessary to have so many fics dedicated to this one venue. I enjoy non cannon pairings as well ( if well written). I would say that Jeremie has also already conquered his fear of the scanners long enough to apologize to her in Frontier ( even though that went so horribly wrong.) I know that fear is still there, but that is one example of what you previously mention

[Astro-Xana offline]

I also would like to point out that as of right now, while complex, jeremie is the most static character on the show right now, which is not healthy for him or his relationship.

Actually, to be more specific, he is poisonous shadow solar ice-cold static! In other words, he probably thinks that love is a worthless interference with his seeking of becoming a more powerful madman genius mastermind. And although he fakes his love towards Aelita and his friendship towards his friends, he only cares about his own artificial world of technology and such which will eventually lead him to insanity. And this insanity will perhaps one day make Jeremy turn to the dark side and make him Xana's cybernetic minion in the virtual world!

[Sithking Zero offline]

I also would like to point out that as of right now, while complex, jeremie is the most static character on the show right now, which is not healthy for him or his relationship.

Actually, to be more specific, he is poisonous shadow solar ice-cold static! In other words, he probably thinks that love is a worthless interference with his seeking of becoming a more powerful madman genius mastermind. And although he fakes his love towards Aelita and his friendship towards his friends, he only cares about his own artificial world of technology and such which will eventually lead him to insanity. And this insanity will perhaps one day make Jeremy turn to the dark side and make him Xana's cybernetic minion in the virtual world!

ooookayyyy.....

I personally think that his love for Aelita is real, but that's me and my crazy ideas based on canon.

[Writing_Addict offline]

I also would like to point out that as of right now, while complex, jeremie is the most static character on the show right now, which is not healthy for him or his relationship.

Actually, to be more specific, he is poisonous shadow solar ice-cold static! In other words, he probably thinks that love is a worthless interference with his seeking of becoming a more powerful madman genius mastermind. And although he fakes his love towards Aelita and his friendship towards his friends, he only cares about his own artificial world of technology and such which will eventually lead him to insanity. And this insanity will perhaps one day make Jeremy turn to the dark side and make him Xana's cybernetic minion in the virtual world!

ooookayyyy.....

IIIiiiinteresting.

[Aurabolt offline]

Well, that was a little too out there, I have to say.

Skorpigeist: I like some non-canon pairings as well, but only ones that are probable based on evidence and possible character development with is brought out by this relationship. Non-canon pairings which I think are possible are Odd/Sissy, Ulrich/Sissy (though eww.), William/Yumi, and Hiroki/Milly. Odd/Aelita doesn't work because their personalities conflict, and he's more of a big brother(cousin, whatever.) than a possible romance, especially since their is no evidence to support it. Either does Jeremie/Yumi, or Odd/Yumi.

The only reason I said there is a need for more J/A fics is that because it is a canon pairing with no real development in the series as of yet, Ulrich/Yumi, a canon pairing as well, beats it by tens of pics. I will admit there is good quality in these fics, but having good quality and quantity never hurt anyone's fanbase.

[Cassius335 offline]

Well, that was a little too out there, I have to say.

*dryly* Wait until you meant GivR...

Skorpigeist: I like some non-canon pairings as well, but only ones that are probable based on evidence and possible character development with is brought out by this relationship. Non-canon pairings which I think are possible are Odd/Sissy, Ulrich/Sissy (though eww.), William/Yumi, and Hiroki/Milly. Odd/Aelita doesn't work because their personalities conflict, and he's more of a big brother(cousin, whatever.) than a possible romance, especially since their is no evidence to support it. Either does Jeremie/Yumi, or Odd/Yumi.

have Hiroki and Milly even met yet?

And the non hetro pairings?

The only reason I said there is a need for more J/A fics is that because it is a canon pairing with no real development in the series as of yet,

True. It's basically happily going nowhere,

[Writing_Addict offline]

Odd/Aelita doesn't work because their personalities conflict, and he's more of a big brother(cousin, whatever.) than a possible romance, especially since their is no evidence to support it.

Well two things. One-Finally someone agrees with me and Two- There is LOTS of evidence of OxA. Not to much to make it official. Unless your talking about something else.

[Aurabolt offline]

That's just it, Addiction. As far as I have seen any interaction between Odd and Aelita, he has always been a very protective person towards her, since they share something in common; both are very different people in a school where conformity is paramount. One is outgoing and wild, while the other is sweet and innocent. Both are traits not seen very much in Kadic.

Now, that could be considered a relationship basis, but I claim that they look out for each other more in that regard, because either of them know what to expect from the world around them. There have been many times where Odd has done something out of control which people do not understand; I point to "Rock Bottom" and "Tip-Top Shape" as examples. (I have major issues with Tip-Top Shape. It would've made more sense if Jeremie was the one to be Jeremified, wth Yumi at the controls, and Odd, Ulrich, and Aelita going to put a stop to both towers. After all, who's practically alawys left to fend for his own after the others have gone to Lyoko? Jeremie.) Aelita has the same issues; no matter how much she has grown, she expects the best from people and is extremely loyal to her friends. Being the only other person incapable of fighting in the real world as well also helps my argument. They have to be there for one another because the world acts different to them from their unique perspective.

Other than that, there's not much to go on. Odd and Aelita may be close in certain episodes, but not as close as Jeremie and Aelita. "Xana's Kiss", "Straight to Heart", and the end of "Final Mix" are proof enough of that. (I would also have said "Double Trouble", but I think they either got that episode completely wrong, or what actually happened in the French translation is that Odd and Yumi both agreed it was Jeremie, and Aelita wasn't sure.) Odd is also much closer to a romantic relationship with Samantha than any other character; Sissy is possible, but too much of a brat, let us consider that Yumi and Aelita are taken, and everyone else is too young, not to mention that Odd has been dumped by everyone else in Kadic by this point. Finally, he may have had a unique impression on Aelita, but in actuality, everyone has: She gained some of Yumi's independence, Ulrich's sense of doing the right thing, Odd's ability to be outgoing, and Jeremie's loyalty, quick response to danger, and stubbornness.

I think I've made my case.

And for non-hetro pairings, I can only see two being probable: Herb/Nicholas, and William/Ulrich or William/Odd, but IF AND ONLY IF during or after Season 3.

[Cassius335 offline]

And for non-hetro pairings, I can only see two being probable: Herb/Nicholas, and William/Ulrich or William/Odd, but IF AND ONLY IF during or after Season 3.

After Season 3? You HAVE seen "Final Round", right?

Even during that season, why William with either boy? How would that work?

And what about girl/girl? (Milly/Tamiya, or any pairing combination of Yumi, Aelita and/or Sissi)