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Postby Vora Lyoko » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:26 pm

What if Xana was Aelita's mom. I know Xana's a boy but who knows. ATHis is my stupid theroy but I think I got something
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Postby TaskForceLyoko » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:41 pm

OddxSissy Fan wrote:What if Xana was Aelita's mom. I know Xana's a boy but who knows. ATHis is my stupid theroy but I think I got something

How did you come to this conclusion?
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Postby Vora Lyoko » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:06 am

Thats what I'm figuring out. No one told us where Aelita's mother went anyway,
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Postby KayLenny#7 » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:48 am

I never really thought much about Xana's gender (if there is one). I always thought of Xana as a guy, but I dunno; maybe you're right.
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Postby Taelia » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:50 am

Yeah. I was thinking that too.
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Postby animenologist » Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:11 pm

Although its an interesting idea, it lacks evidence, so its mostly based on conjecture. If XANA was really Aelita's mother, how and why did Hopper do that to his wife? Why would he choose to make his own wife a weapon against Carthage? And why would XANA have malice against Aelita? I could understand problems with Hopper since, if your theory is true, he caused her condition, but why Aelita, her innocent daughter who had done nothing? And one last thing, if XANA was based on a human mind, why does it have an inhuman understanding of human thought and emotion? Until Franz Hopper, its understanding of humans is juvenile, only understanding base ideas and characteristics. I would think a system based fully on a human would be more understandible.

If we take what XANA said in Franz Hopper to be valid, XANA was created based on a multi-agent system which is what Jeremie's Marabounta was based upon. It seems odd to use her as a basis when it could of easily been just based upon an advanced AI system.

Again, its an interesting idea, but with the following criticisms. Answer those questions, and provide more evidence, and it could be an interesting topic for debate.
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Postby TaskForceLyoko » Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:41 pm

OddxSissy Fan wrote:Thats what I'm figuring out. No one told us where Aelita's mother went anyway,

We see her "disappear" through Aelita's memory. Given Aelita's age when this happened, it could be concluded that she was either not present at her mother's death, or she could not comprehend what happened. It could be said that to Aelita, her mother did in fact "disappear", though the truth was probably the animators being artistic.

I'm not convinced, due mostly to a lack of evidence to support it, but I think I'll take a stab at some of Animenologist's questions in the hopes of getting some ideas and discussion out.

How and why would Hopper do that to his wife?
I've said this on another thread, but we are all assuming Franz Hopper was a good guy. With The Key being shown again, this subject is quite ambiguous. We see him as good because Aelita remembers him that way, and because she is good. She, however, knew nothing of his work or his plans ever. Not saying he is or isn't, but it's not clear. As far as how he would have done it, tech is not my thing. For all purposes, my answer will be magic. :D

Malice to Aelita, basis on a human mind, understanding human characteristics?
Perhaps Hopper needed something extra to finish Xana. Xana may have been based on a multi-agent system, but it didn't work without a "cheat" of sorts. He would only need some of his wife's conciousness or sentience, and discarded others like memories and humanity.

Another possibility would involve the timeframe of Aelita's mother's disappearance. At that point in time, the virtualizers were not yet created, or only in their early stages. Franz Hopper may well have used his wife as a test subject and "lost" her that way. Whatever remained of her in the system may have been the cause of Xana's sentience.

Like I said, I'm just trying to give this theory a kick start, though I'm not really for it. Animenologist, please begin hacking away at my faulty logic and pseudo-techy-speak.
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Postby Lyokofreak » Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:44 pm

Theres a 25% chance thats even possible lol
Xana=Aelita's Mom: FALSE
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Postby TaskForceLyoko » Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:47 pm

LyoKoHaCk wrote:Theres a 25% chance thats even possible lol
Xana=Aelita's Mom: FALSE

So what you're saying is.........there is a chance. ._.
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Postby TB3 » Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:51 pm

TaskForceLyoko wrote:
LyoKoHaCk wrote:Theres a 25% chance thats even possible lol
Xana=Aelita's Mom: FALSE

So what you're saying is.........there is a chance. ._.


Have you ever seen 'Dumb and Dumber', with Jim Carrey's character Lloyd Christmas;

LLOYD: Mary...what's the chance of a guy like you and a girl like me getting together?
MARY: About one in a million
LLOYD (massive smile): So you're telling me there's a chance...OH YEAH!

But yeah, though it's a wacky theory, Moonscoop could throw it at as - personally I have other theories about what happened to Mrs. Hopper - dark and sinister theories revolving around Project Carthage.
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Postby Lyokofreak » Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:57 pm

hAS A scheme :devil2:
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